Loved the video.
Looking forward to the next one.
It's called a taste of your own medicine.
moomanchu
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Video: Jehovah's Witness Elders Lie and Call Police
by leavingwt in(via free minds).
jehovah's witness elders lie and call police.
on october 31, 2010 jehovah's witnesses elders lie when asked by charles huff, also a jehovah's witness, if they shun ex-members of the jehovah's witnesses' religion.
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
The mention of a third in Revalation was explained to be just symbolic of a large number but not meaning it really is a third.
Ohhh I see the ole arbitrary symbolic literal game.
So a third is symbolic kinda just like the number 144,000, ohhh now I see.
Why is Satan so stupid to go up against Jehovah with such a small amount of allies?
Also I made a mistake in the amount of fallen angels. (if taken literally)
There are 101,000,000 good angels worshiping God . Sooooo
Total of amount of angels bad + good would need to actually be 151,500,000 .
50,500,000 demons! Yeah even more demons
Whatever
From JW Revelation it Grand Climax
The dragon has authority also in the spirit realm. With his tail, he "drags a third of the stars of heaven." Stars can represent angels. (Job 38:7) Mention of "a third" would emphasize that a considerable number of angels have been misled by Satan. Once these came under his control, there was no escape for them. They could not return to God’s holy organization. They became demons, dragged along, as it were, by Satan their king, or ruler. (Matthew 12:24) Satan also cast them down to the earth. This no doubt refers to Noah’s day before the Flood, when Satan induced the disobedient sons of God to go down to earth and cohabit with the daughters of men. As a punishment, these "angels that sinned" have been thrown by God into the prisonlike condition called Tartarus.—Genesis 6:4; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6.
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Thus, two opposing organizations have come clearly into view—Jehovah’s heavenly organization as pictured by the woman and Satan’s demonic organization that challenges God’s sovereignty. The great issue of sovereignty must be settled. But how? Satan, still dragging the demons along with him, is like a vicious beast of prey eyeing a potential victim. He is waiting for the woman to give birth. He wants to devour this expected infant because he knows that it poses an ominous threat to his continued existence and that of the world over which he exercises rulership.—John 14:30.
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
I just emptied my pockets and found 2 plus a hobgoblin.
Now if you could get the ones out of your head you'd be fine. lol
“The devil is a better theologian than any of us and is a devil still.”
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How Many Demons Are There ?
by moomanchu inmy attempt at answering.. first how many angels are there?.
revelation 5:11; .
then i looked and heard the voice of many angels, .
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moomanchu
My attempt at answering.
First how many angels are there?
Revelation 5:11; Then I looked and heard the voice of many angels,
numbering thousands upon thousands,
and ten thousand times ten thousand. They encircled the throne and the living creatures and the elders.Dan 7:10;A fiery stream issued and came forth from before him:
thousand thousands ministered unto him,
and ten thousand times ten thousand stood
before him: the judgment was set, and the books were opened.1,000 X 1,000 = 1,000,000
10,000 X 10,000 = 100,000,000
Total 101,000,000 Angels
A third have fallen .
Revelation 12:4;
Its tail swept a third of the stars out of the sky and flung them to the earth.
The dragon stood in front of the woman who was about to give birth,
so that it might devour her child the moment he was born.3 / 101,000,000 =
33,666,666 Demons
That is a lot of demons, no wonder the JW are obsessed with them.
This whole 1/3 angels rebelling against God has always puzzled me.
Imagine if you are a carpenter and 1/3 of all the products you build are defects
What if you’re a manager and 1/3 of your department hates you.
Suppose you had 6 kids and 2 became criminals.Isn't it baffling that Jehovah the Almighty God doesn't have a better heavenly family?
btw isn't that a weird number that poped up for the amount of demons?
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Why Are They Called "Pioneers"?
by Ding indoes anyone know how the wts came up with the term "pioneer" and the related "auxiliary" and "special" pioneer terms?.
it's not in the bible and it seems to come from us expansionist history....
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moomanchu
Origin: pioneer
1515–25; < MF pionier, OF peonier foot soldier. See peon , -eer Origin: peon
1820–30; < Sp peón peasant, day laborer < VL *pedon- (s. of *pedo ) walker (whence ML pedones infantry, OF peon pawn 2 ), deriv. of L ped- (s. of pes ) footFrom the origin of the word pioneer it is obvious to see why the society has named them "pioneers".
Pioneer refers to a peon or pawn who walks around working full-time for free.
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Blue Mountain Fire
by mouthy injust heard dont know if you all know but the main lounge burned today .
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moomanchu
Read about this in the paper today. They said they would rebuild.
The fire it is still under investigation.
Hope they had insurance.
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Suicide article from JW website
by moomanchu infrom the watchtower website:.
mary suffered from clinical depression as well as some other health problems.. however, she was not isolated from her family, nor did she abuse alcohol or drugs.
mary's case well illustrates the point that not all risk factors need to be present for a serious suicide attempt to take place.. .
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I thought they are f'ed up because, they are admitting that isolation from family is a major factor
to people comitting suicide.
They also start bragging in the article about the JW neighbor being sooooo helping.
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Suicide article from JW website
by moomanchu infrom the watchtower website:.
mary suffered from clinical depression as well as some other health problems.. however, she was not isolated from her family, nor did she abuse alcohol or drugs.
mary's case well illustrates the point that not all risk factors need to be present for a serious suicide attempt to take place.. .
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moomanchu
From the Watchtower website:
MARY suffered from clinical depression as well as some other health problems.
However, she was not isolated from her family, nor did she abuse alcohol or drugs.
Mary's case well illustrates the point that not all risk factors need to be present for a serious suicide attempt to take place.
They are one f'ed up cult !!
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Another 144,000 Question
by Cold Steel inokay, based on my reading, you're clearly better off being one of the 144,000. first, you get to reside in heaven, while everyone else is consigned to living on earth.
second, a spirit (in wts eschatology) is much better than being a flesh and bone human.
they can fly, read in a darkened room and they get to be with god for eternity.. but what of everyone else?
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moomanchu
Actually, no... not wishing. I mean, I always knew. From the time I was a child. Which is how I ended up IN the WTBTS: they were the only ones talking about "anointed," and "seed of the Woman" and "truth" and "Israel" and "New Covenant" and things like these. But it truly does NOT matter if one is from one of the tribes of Israel (for me, Benjamin)... or of the nations.
Are you a JW?
If you are an "annointed one" you get tested 1X .
Your reward is to be an immortal spirit being ruling with Christ as king and priest in heaven .
If you are an "other sheep" you get tested 2X .
Your reward is same body same earth cept perfect living as a subject to of "the annointed ones".
me tinks da nointed wons gits da better gig.
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moomanchu
We get a report every year from our district showing our water's analysis and it's always over and beyond the standard.
I think you should get water tested from your faucet.
You could pick up contaminents from the miles of city pipe and you're own plumbing?
Ever see the inside of some of those pipes.