Does god punish children for their parents sins?

by moomanchu in

ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.

moomanchu

Blondie

That is a good link from jw.org. It proves the point that indeed Jehovah does punish children for the sins of the parents.

I forgot about that story with Naaman. Condensed version of it: Gehazi commited fraud which then resulted in him and all his descendants getting leprosy. Basically everyone related to him got the death penalty because he committed fraud. Seems like reasonable and fair justice. not

Jehovah should have allowed Adam and Eve to pay for their own sin with their own death as was stated. Why couldn't Jehovah allow the children to be born perfect? He is God he can do anything . After that make each individual pay for their own sin with death . This is the samething that is going to happen in the paradise anyway. All the BS over the last 6,000 years could have been avoided - entertainment.

The older I get the more it all seems like BS. I look at my older JW relatives and think "how do you do it?"

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by Ron.W. in

the governing body are proud to announce... can you finish off the line for them - the more outrageous the better,, .

moomanchu

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

How is me guessing a murder motive on an obscure ex-cult website harmful to the victims families or others? I'm sure they and anyone else who followed this story are guessing themselves as to why it happend.

I know the news media and others closely related to the murders are speculating on it through TV. I even seen an interview of one of the classmates from that school who looked to be about 9 years old. That could be argued as harmful to families and students because it's constantly in your face.

No one related to those murders is reading these comments on JWD. If they are they went looking for opinions and they want to read about what others think.

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

Found her manifesto, only skimmed over it. The world is better off with out her.

https://channel2now.com/2024/12/16/article/news/crime/abundant-life-christian-school-shooter-natalie-rupnows-full-manifesto-revealed/

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

Blondie

"The people killed have families and sharing such guesses, is very harmful, even here to those unknown readers or jws coming here."

Sorry, I read that wrong.

It doesn't make sense to me that you think a murder motive guess would somehow be harmful to the victims families or others? I don't get it. I'm sure they are guessing themselves as to why it happend.

BTW legally you can NOT slander a dead person no matter what you say about them. But really you think me guessing a murderers motive will damage their reputation????????? Oh no, the poor murderer's reputation is now ruined, you tried to guess their murder motive. Get real.

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

You're right I do not know her motive and guessing is a waste of time.

I only read my guess from a random poster who seemed to have some inside info.

So all we know right now is she is a POS scum bag murderer.

On the plus side though, no money wasted on court or imprisoning her.

Curious to me how you sympathize with the murderer's family.

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

Blondie

"As far I have seen in the media in the past, we don't have to worry about a gender confused teen turned mass murderer. moomanchu, your guesses are maybe 1 percent likely to be the facts. Most mass murderers are not gender confused teens. I would hate to think this group is like made up jws that gossip about people in the congregation and the reasons they are df'd. Blondie (actually I am embarrassed that this has been said on here)"

Wow you don't know about this recent case?

This is how well the media keep the Trannies protected.

https://okcfox.com/news/nation-world/nashville-police-identify-victims-suspect-in-nashville-school-mass-shooting-audrey-elizabeth-hale-evelyn-dieckhaus-hallie-scruggs-william-kinney-cynthia-peak-katherine-koonce-mike-hill-christian

I'm not D'fed as a matter a fact I had 2 sisters at my house 3 weeks ago kissing my ass to come back.LOL

Guessing about a criminals motive and gossiping about friends in the hall are a little different IMO.

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Maddison, WI Shool Shooting - 3 Dead

by Sea Breeze in

like the one in tennessee, this one in maddison, wi, was done be a female.

the police chief points out that: .

“yes, i don’t know whether [the shooter] was transgender or not, and quite frankly, i don’t think that’s even important.

moomanchu

I think she was an extreme feminist who hated men and a copycat Columbine wannabe.(shirt)

One thing we know for sure is she isn't MAGA, Christian, white supremecist, American nationalist or anti abortion. Otherwise all the details about it would have been released already and be playing nonstop on national media.

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Does god punish children for their parents sins?

by moomanchu in

ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.

moomanchu

Interesting comments, some definitely more knowledgeable than me of Jewish traditions and customs.

I just find it fascinating that Jehovah never said in Genesis he would punish Adam and Eve's children. He only pronounced punishment on them. No normal government or sane man would punish the children of ancestors who broke laws. Why would God do it?

The whole thing stinks.🤔 😵

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Does god punish children for their parents sins?

by moomanchu in

ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “the word of the lord came to me: ‘what do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of israel: “the parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”?

as surely as i live, declares the sovereign lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in israel.

for everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me.

moomanchu

Ezekiel 18: 1-4 , “The word of the Lord came to me: ‘What do you people mean by quoting this proverb about the land of Israel: “The parents eat sour grapes, and the children’s teeth are set on edge”? As surely as I live, declares the Sovereign Lord, you will no longer quote this proverb in Israel. For everyone belongs to me, the parent as well as the child—both alike belong to me. The one who sins is the one who will die.’”

Exodus 20:5–6 “For I, the Lord your God, am a jealous God, punishing the children for the sin of the parents to the third and fourth generation of those who hate me, but showing love to a thousand generations of those who love me and keep my commandments.”

So, does god hold children responsible for their parents’ sins?

If no, then obviously why are we sufferig for Adam and Eve’s sin ?

Jehovah's original punishment set out was (according to Eve) `You must not eat fruit from the tree that is in the middle of the garden, and you must not touch it, or you will die.'

After the sin Jehovah added the punishments of banishment from the garden, cursed ground, painful toil, and painful childbirth and alienation to Adam for Eve.

All these punishments were for Adam and Eve. What is funny to me is these punishments were added after the sin was committed. Imagine running a red light and the judge says I know the law says it's a $250.00 fine but I'm adding 2 years in prison and I'm taking your kids away.

Original sin imputed to us is a shaky and strange foundation that the whole bible is built on.

moomanchu

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