Posts by violias

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NEW 2012 Elders book with 2015 Amendments

by Newly Enlightened in

thanks to jw archive wiki we have a pdf of the new elders book.. https://www.dropbox.com/s/mz9z38909t3fh7c/2012-shepherd-the-flock-of-god-ks10_e.pdf?dl=0.

violias

part 12 paragraph 21, I have the last half. wow the victim and parents are on trial. They must have a good reputation. Reminds me of rape cases where the morals of the person raped are more important than the truth of the matter.

The following questions should be answered with regard

to the accuser: (1) What is the level of maturity

of the child or youth? (2) Is he (or she) describing

conduct that one his age would not normally know

about? (3) Is the child or his parents known to be serious,

mature? (4) Is his memory consistent, or is it

intermittent, or does it involve repressed memories?

(w95 11/1 pp. 25-26) (5) What is the reputation of

the parents? (6) Are they spiritually and emotionally

mature? After carefully considering the matter, the

branch office will then give you direction as to what

information about the allegation should be shared, if

any, with the elders of the new congregation.

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Witnesses of Jehovah film from about 1986

by violias in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3zp9fiyiq.

film witnesses of jehovah .

note 37:35 .

violias

My hubby and I had heard that there were unauthorized assemblies being held (80's ) and some of the "apostate" tapes came from those gatherings. We were never invited to any of them but we did hear about them. I was actively opposing the boe in 86-- if only I had known how many more people there were. I knew they were wrong not from reading apostate literature-- I knew they were wrong from reading the Bible, even the NWT shows them to be false prophets. I knew there were some apostate groups but we never were invited into them either. These apostate groups infilitred the congos and some were elders and MS .. In one congo I atteneded I found out both a MS and elder were apart of the apostate group. The elders were actively trying to out these groups ( mostly younger people late teens and 20's ) but they hung together really tight.

I get sick thinking about this time period . It was a horrible upheaval in the Borg , from Bethel to the local KH. You never knew who was spying for which side. I still want to slap someone silly when I think of them trying to force my old demented mother to get rid of her early WT books. I still have them, they belonged to my grandfather .

I grew up in this Org. and did not even recognize them from about 73 onward. When 75 failed people left and the accusations were flying. Infighting among boe's and some really dirty stuff happened to some nice people.

I hope they Rot in H*ll.

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TTATT Billboard outside Belton, TX JW Conventions - Fundraising campaign

by quest81 in

billboard raising awareness of the dangers of the jehovah's witness cult.. short summary.

millions of people's lives are being adversely affected every day by jehovah's witnesses' (also known as jw.org) harmful teachings of shunning former members, refusal of certain kinds of medical treatment, social isolation, and harboring of child molesters.

the goal of this campaign is to sponsor a billboard that will be targeted to current members traveling to the belton, tx conventions july 31st - aug 9th 2015. these conventions attract thousands of current members and hundreds of prospective members.

violias

billboards can be effective. I recall one on Interstate 635 ( LBJ for Texas natives) when Timothy McVeigh was on trial. It was called Highway To Hell , can't recall anything else other than that and his name. Very effective.

http://amarillo.com/stories/2001/06/17/tex_mcveigh.shtml#.VSRfhrl0y1s

http://www.upi.com/News_Photos/view/upi/e255d2683803ae53720f9ac540b937eb/Dallas-Billboard-Depicting-McVeigh-with-Satan-Stirs-Controversy/

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TTATT Billboard outside Belton, TX JW Conventions - Fundraising campaign

by quest81 in

billboard raising awareness of the dangers of the jehovah's witness cult.. short summary.

millions of people's lives are being adversely affected every day by jehovah's witnesses' (also known as jw.org) harmful teachings of shunning former members, refusal of certain kinds of medical treatment, social isolation, and harboring of child molesters.

the goal of this campaign is to sponsor a billboard that will be targeted to current members traveling to the belton, tx conventions july 31st - aug 9th 2015. these conventions attract thousands of current members and hundreds of prospective members.

violias

I-35 is major North/south through Texas and into OK.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Interstate_35_in_Texas

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Witnesses of Jehovah film from about 1986

by violias in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3zp9fiyiq.

film witnesses of jehovah .

note 37:35 .

violias

This link was on another thread and when I watched It I was-- so heartbroken. It was a painful watch for me b/c I recall that time period so well. There was just outright apostate hysteria. People were being dragged to the back room on any kind of suspicion of apostacy. Some of the boe's did some really dirty underhanded things against folks they considered apostate. Many ( boe's ) were just like company men who would have buried bodies if they'd had to. My mom was told to get rid of or burn her books early WTS books b/c " the apostates were using them against us". I stopped them from destroying my GF's books. Da*n them to H*LL.

If only I could have seen this at that time. I got in possession of a few tapes that were being passed around but nothing like this. For me it would be another 10 yrs. before I could walk out the door and 6 yrs. more before I was completely done with jws.

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Witnesses of Jehovah film from about 1986

by violias in

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ve3zp9fiyiq.

film witnesses of jehovah .

note 37:35 .

violias

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VE3zp9FiyiQ

film Witnesses of Jehovah . note 37:35

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Going Clear: Jehovah's Witnesses?

by StarTrekAngel in

would it ever happen?

your opinion.

violias

how I wish I could have seen that film all those years ago.

want to note at 37:35 in the wt. article " Days like Noah" ( words to that affect), that higher ups in the ORG are have become involved in homosexuality, CHILD MOLESTING etc. They admit this in writing.

That was a devastating film to watch as those people where in their late 20's early 30's as I was at that time. So much of my life gone .

I just posted this on Facebook. Hope others will read this, IN FACT, this film deserves it own thread so NO ONE will miss it.

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These guys crash a Kingdom Hall on Memorial, video included

by Crazyguy in

jw
friends

https://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=7mars2mtaui.

to funny nice job....

violias

That was not a very mature a thing to do. People have a right to assemble for religious worship even if we personally don't like it or agree with it. Doing things like this just make the apostates look like crazies who would disrupt and otherwise uneventful meeting.

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Separated from a loveless Marriage

by PLAYGROUND in

i don't know where to start.

i got married a year and half ago.

some months into the marriage things where discovered.

violias

Fortunately for you this is 2015 and the police know what spousal abuse is and are willing to believe you-- call them. Ask for help . You can get out of this relationship , even if the only way out is moving into a shelter. By calling the police it makes a paper trail and it will be embarrassing for the elders and spouse if there has been numerous calls to the police. Most importantly you don't have to pay with your life or self respect by staying with someone who would hit you ( I would hit back too!! )

You just made a mistake marrying someone who lied to you. This can be fixed. Don't waste your life in a loveless marriage. Leave and separate. Don't worry about divorce right now. One thing I have learned in life

is that all things come to an end eventually.

Your spouse may want out and is just trying to look good in front of elders. They may have another person picked out already. Many jws spouses set their mate up so they can marry another.

If you leave and just go on with your life your spouse will eventually make a move. Really is living alone worse than this?

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Thoughts on "Going Clear," the Scientology Documentary

by OnTheWayOut in

jw
friends

i managed to find a copy of "going clear" on the internet.

i won't post a link because most are loaded with pop-ups and you have to be careful about accidental downloads.

mine was no exception, but i managed to keep the computer clean.

violias

you can watch it on Daily Motion without creating an account -at least I did. I have my pop up blocker on high and Malewarebytes on so if it was a malicious site I would have been warned. It was a very disturbing film, hits a bit too close to home.

http://www.dailymotion.com/video/x2l7b1p

you will have to watch brief advertisements- commercials throughout the program but it was not oppressive.