Posts by barry

Australia has allways been with the US and is supporting the US in this campain we have ships aircraft and soldiers over there right now so if America is guilty so are we. Barry

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after my child was sexually abused i found myself wondering, not only about how to help my child cope with the actual crime committed, but also how would i deal with the organization, the pedo, the other congregation members etc, and how would the way i dealt with it all affect my child (victim) and the other siblings?.

the borg expected me to leave it all to the elders (only the 2 that knew about the crime) and the rest to jehovah.

ok, but then i got df for trying to protect other children in the congo because the 2 elders weren't.

barry

gday Bliss,
I agree with Pris that you probably did the right thing in youre case. A more desirable outcome would be to take on the elders about the issues after all there are too many good people leaving it is youre religion and things wont improve if these cases are handled in such an unjust way. There is no moral direction for youre kids or the rest of society and unless those in charge take the problem in hand the good name of the religion will be questioned by the rest of the community eventually. At the church I attend I take the members, ministers head on for much less than has happened to you and I wont back down. I have apologised for taking over a meeting but not for my opinions. Barry

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Firestorm razes 400 ACT homes: four dead

by kelpie in

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hi guys and gals.

i have found a current report for you all.. monday january 20, 02:42 pmfirestorm razes 400 act homes: four dead.

a 73-year-old duffy man was identified as the fourth person to have died in ferocious bushfires that ravaged canberra at the weekend, destroying up to 400 homes.. he died in the duffy fires, which destroyed 185 houses.. .

barry

My family live in an area of Canberra that is relatively new so the trees arent fully grown and there isnt much fuel on the ground here but fires were all around us at 3pm saturday it was like midnight here all the cars had to have their lights on and the sky was completly black. Barry

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Episcopalians Rock!

by Robdar in

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a couple of months ago, i wrote asking this forum for information about the episcopalians.

many of you answered and i was intrigued by your replies.

i was finally able to attend a service today and enjoyed it very much.

barry

The scolars and many members of the Episcopalian church dont beleive in hellfire but they dont make it an issue. Also the 39 articals of faith of the Episcopalians dont mention hellfire either. Barry

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Williams fined for obscenity

by barry in

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the australian daily telegragh on 17th jan has an artical on serena williams and goes on to say.

top speed serena williams clains she has no memory of swearing during her tight australian open first round match despite being fined $2500 for the offence yesterday.

williams was fined for an 'audible obscenity ' while she came back from a set downto overcome emilie loit, of france , on tuesday.

barry

I forgot to mention at the top of the page the heading in half inch size is 'A lady who swears by her Christianity' also I think the word starts with an F and ends with ing. Barry

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Williams fined for obscenity

by barry in

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the australian daily telegragh on 17th jan has an artical on serena williams and goes on to say.

top speed serena williams clains she has no memory of swearing during her tight australian open first round match despite being fined $2500 for the offence yesterday.

williams was fined for an 'audible obscenity ' while she came back from a set downto overcome emilie loit, of france , on tuesday.

barry

The Australian daily telegragh on 17th Jan has an artical on Serena Williams and goes on to say. Top speed Serena Williams clains she has no memory of swearing during her tight Australian Open first round match despite being fined $2500 for the offence yesterday. Williams was fined for an 'audible obscenity ' while she came back from a set downto overcome Emilie Loit, of France , on Tuesday. "I dont remember that ' Williams said.
The editorial then goes on. Well Ill certainly be wary next time there is a knock on the door. It could be a Jehovahs Witness ready to give me a gobful.
And a pretty foul gobful at that. Open this ...ing door m.....and read this stuff about God or Ill punch your.....ing lights out.
The JWs used to be earnest but boring. But now we get the Serena Williams version . The artical goes on
Barry

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Staying Awake Or Keeping In A Frenzy?

by AlanF in

we ex-jws know very well how much the watchtower society put us under pressure to believe that "armageddon is just around the corner".

they've been doing it in one form or another ever since charles taze russell began publishing his nonsense.

in 1877 he advocated that true christians should believe that christ would "take them home" in 1878. when that didn't happen he moved the event up to 1881. after that he focused on 1914.. the society is still doing pretty much the same thing, building up expectations and then revising them, decade after decade.

barry

In reguards to this topic I feel as the resident Adventist here an Adventist perspective is called for. Firstly I would say good work to Alanf and if the WT is anything like the Adventists the date of 1914 will be constantly developed to change with the times and so will always be relevent to the faithful. I put myself in the group which says that the power of religious convictions has rarely followed the paths of logic. The Adventists date of 1844 has long passed the generation and is a very contraversial doctrine with adventists it usually causes arguements at bible studies at the churches I attend.
Here is some information you may be able to picture the WT dealing with in the future.
For over a hundred years, loyal Adventist ministers have contended that the supposed prophetic date of 1844 and the theory of the investigative Judgment are contrary to Scripture. They have also pointed out that such teachings are alien to the gospel of Christ. Protester after protester has arisen, been overwhelmed by prejudice, vilified . and passed by. Today they are vindicated by a recent undeniable turn of the tables in Europe.
Kai J Arasola is the son of Finlands best -known SDA evangelist ever, Arvo Arasola. Kai is the current president of East Finland's SDA Canference. His recent doctoral dissertation from Uppsala University is now making its way through the Adventist scholarly world.
The title of Elder Arasola's thesis is 'The End of Historicism ?Hermeneutic of Time Prophecies in the Old Testament'. Arasola writes what the scholars of Adventism in Europe, America and around the world have long known. There is no biblical basis for 1844.
Bible scholars in Millers time and later looked at Millers fifteen proofs and found them without validity. There were few who could be called Bible scholars who were involved in the Great Disappointement of 1844.
Arasola points out the flimsy nature of Millers chronological pillars. Kai emphasises that the whole scholarly world repudiated them. He mentions that only Seventh day adventists, the Worldwide Church of God and the Jehovahs Witnesses cling to Millers Approach in interpreting prophecy. When Arasola mentions Seventh day Adventism he does not mean the scholars of the church. They repudiate such teaching [except for some few dedicated to upholding the traditional positions for reasons other than scholarship]
Letter from a scholar.
'It is a devastating blow not only for Millers speculations and for his methods, but to Adventist theology as well. Very , very little is heard of 1844 from the pulpits. No theologians in our ranks comment on it , only the unschooled. Barry

Edited by - barry on 8 January 2003 6:59:59

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Hard work does pay off in the end :)

by WildHorses in

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i was just sitting here going over my finances and, if murphy's law doesn't come into play.. when i first started this cleaning service, i thought i would never get it built up, and a few times thought i would end up losing my home.

my mom, has on a few occasions, asked me to move to mn to live with her, because she knew my situation.

however, i was determined that i was going to make it on my own.

barry

Thats great news Shari I know myself how hard it can be especially over the first 3 years getting a clientell together. I started a business 5 years ago and it took me 3 years to get a reasonable business income out of it . I started getting my work going door to door and I told my witness friends about it and how if I had been brought up a witness I would have a head start with door to door. Barry

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Analysis of Apostasy

by pseudoxristos in

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a load of crap from a jw forum.

i thought everyone would gag enjoy.. .

i have recently written a short essay on the mode and operation .

barry

Someone said to every action there is an equal and opposite reaction. This occures in physics and also in society so why have some moral judgement about such issues? To me there is no point to make. Barry