(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
"...I can't see how a simple agreeing Jesus came can identify a person if from God."
Because the natural man can not and does not seek after God. Only a man who has had his heart changed by the Spirit would dare say that the Son of God came in the flesh.
Peace
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
" I wonder why they all sound the same? Do you know?"
Because God has the power to and does protect His Word.
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
Word for word from the Greek,
In this ye are knowing the spirit of the God every spirit is avowing Jesus anointed in flesh having come out of the God is
and every spirit which no avowing Jesus anointed in flesh having come out of the God no is
(the previous verse warns there will be false prophets).
by this you will know that the spirit is of god because the whole spirit is in agreement with jesus christ that among flesh (mankind) has come out of god is.. i think it means not was but what is.
it means we can believe christ is among us to do the will of god through us.
2 By this you know the Spirit of God: every spirit that confesses that Jesus Christ has come in the flesh is from God, 3 and every spirit that does not confess Jesus is not from God. This is the spirit of the antichrist, which you heard was coming and now is in the world already.
this is a question that has been on my mind lately because i believe it can make an impact on those 'honest hearted' ones who wonder why the watchtower today is so different than the one led by russell and yet russell can still be considered a brother in good standing.. jehovah's witnesses today acknowledge that the watchtower use to celebrate christmas but as they were being led 'out of the darkness' they changed their ways.
i did some research and it is clear in the old zion's watchtower magazines that russell knew that december 25th was not jesus' birthday but instead it was the time of his conception.
in one article, it even stated that jesus was born september 25 (nine months later) while in another article it stated that jesus was born on october 1st.. what's not clear, however, is whether or not old chuck knew that the traditions were pagan.
"As a matter of fact, I don't think they had any problem with the cross or the pyramid symbols at the time of the "great inspection" -"
Or the 1874 "presence of Christ".
Peace
this is a question that has been on my mind lately because i believe it can make an impact on those 'honest hearted' ones who wonder why the watchtower today is so different than the one led by russell and yet russell can still be considered a brother in good standing.. jehovah's witnesses today acknowledge that the watchtower use to celebrate christmas but as they were being led 'out of the darkness' they changed their ways.
i did some research and it is clear in the old zion's watchtower magazines that russell knew that december 25th was not jesus' birthday but instead it was the time of his conception.
in one article, it even stated that jesus was born september 25 (nine months later) while in another article it stated that jesus was born on october 1st.. what's not clear, however, is whether or not old chuck knew that the traditions were pagan.
"Were they still putting up a christmas tree when they were said to have been "inspected and found to be the only true religion on earth" in 1919?"
Yes, I think the last JW Christmas tree was in 1925 (or 26)
Edit "Christmas celebrations ceased in 1928 after a radio broadcast and Golden Age articles on their pagan origins. [ 140 ]"
Yearbook, Watch Tower Bible & Tract Society, 1975, page 147.
Peaace
i just found this brilliant psychodelic instrumental cover of incense and peppermints.
it is the epitomy of groovy.. yeah and share you psychodelic favorites and covers please.
pictures of psychodelic and mod people, cars and fashion would be pretty hip to share.. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wiczue5iwu4.
1st evidence: the release of loyal jews from exile, made possible by the fall of babylon, foreshadowed the release in 1919 of anointed christians from spiritual exile.
2nd evidence: that year marked the beginning of the period when the anointed remnants were released from a form of spiritual captivity to the ideas and practices of false religion.
although having rejected such false teachings as the trinity and the immortal soul, they were still tainted by babylonish practices.
"Were you not aware that the 1914 prediction was made before the event took place?. Wasn't the war not enough substantial evidence to establish the fact that something had been shaken in the spiritual realm?. "
That is incorrect.
1914 was to be the end of Armageddon. Look it up and get your facts straight.
1874 was taught as Christ's second presence until 1929, so again you have your facts wrong.
"shaken in the spiritual realm" is a long way from the end of the great tribulation and the begining of the 1000 year reign.
It's hard to take you seriously when you make such major factual mistakes.
Peace
among the various helpful pieces of advice i have read here from leavingwt, i have noticed that he often tells people to never discuss doctrine with a jw.
i realize that discussing doctrine with a jw can be very frustrating, but i was wondering if there is a more far-reaching and less-obvious reason for this advice.
like is it related to some peculiar aspect of the jw mind that the average person would not be aware of?.
Because they care nothing about doctrine.
If they did they would not be JW's. The WTS has change important doctrines over and over again but it doesn't seem bother the JW.
To a JW, God is guiding and using the WTS as His only mouthpiece on earth. The light gets brighter. Wait on God.
It doesn't matter if what we are teaching today is wrong, God will correct it in time. Stay in union with the FDS or you will be lost.
It's not correct doctrine that saves but association with the FDS.
They have no understanding of grace, faith or freedom in Christ. It a crying shame. :-(
Peace
please can someone direct me to a link of a pdf version of the brochure when someone you love dies.. many thanks!.
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