Wow, that was perfect! I always say that at the very least, they have the right to make an informed decision. Good for you for showing her both sides of the religion.
Very inspirational.
Jez
Posts by Jez
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24I am an official apostate.....nearly.. and I'm loving it!!!!!!
by Gill intoday, whilst shopping, i ran into an old school friend of mine that i had been quite close to.
i used to write her 'sick' notes for her, so as you can imagine, we're friends forever now.. anyway, she tells me that she is studying with jehovah's witnesses again.
i think she expected me to be thrilled with this news.
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Fighting experience?
by bebu inthe other night our son confessed that he had been in an after-school fight last friday.
some small kid was irritated with my son (who's nearly 14) and called on the services of a big friend to beat up my son.
(i actually saw the fight (sort of) as i drove past the school that day to go do errands, and pondered on whether i should stop... i didn't... because i actually wasn't sure it was a fight; it was a lot of kids in a loose crowd).
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Fighting is not just a boy thing, in high school, people left me alone because this real butch girl (2 yrs older) said she was going to beat me up after school. All day I was literally shaking, but whenever her friends came up to me and taunted me about it, I said, "Tell her I am ready." At the end of the day, she found me and said that she did not want to fight, but not to tell anyone. Of course I told all that she was afraid of me.
I did fight this other girl once because she hit me first (said I stole her boyfriend) I laid her flat out in one punch. I got suspended for 3 days, but so did she.
ANYWAYS, not to go down stupid-story-memory-lane BUT my point is this: my parents were not involved in any of this. I never told them, they didn't give a rat's ass about it, and they let me fight my own battles. As parents we think we have all the answers to our kids problems....boy does THAT create problems later on. They end up little wuzzies that can't deal with life on their own and look for someone else to 'figure it out' or 'solve it' for them. Let them work it out, (quantify-unless it is a dangerous bullying situation). Parenting is such a difficult job, trying to figure out when to come forward and when to back off...I'll never figure it out.
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Friends of the opposite sex
by ButtLight indo you think its ok to have really close friends of the opposite sex if you are married or involved with someone?
any one in that situation where your partner is jealous?
or not jealous at all?
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Your mate should know everything about you,
Disagree and think the above is impossible as ppl are constantly changing, growing, maturing, etc...
Maybe it should read, "Your mate should seek to know everything about you." IMHO
I think ppl of the opposite sex can be friends. I enjoy male friendships, and I admit that there is always that little flirtation there, but then again, isn't it there with female friends as well?
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Watchtower Pictures
by RichieRich ini was discussing with my mother (still a jw in good standing) and we were laughing about how in every watchtower, when they show "good christian witnesses" at someone's home or doing family activities, they always wear khakis, without fail.
and whenever they show "worldly" people, they are wearing jeans.
have y'all noticed this?
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to those who ever worked on quick builds............about 1990 the WT said we should not be wearing T-shirts with any kind of "product" names or pictures....beer, sports teams, etc. .......that if we wear a T-shirt, it should be plain. We didn't want to give any observers a bad opinion of JW's. What a crock!
It is all just so superficial isn't it. How we dress, how we look, doesn't matter what is inside your heart, but damn...you better LOOK THE PART!!!!
Jez
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What is the WORST TEACHING of Jehovah's Witness religion?
by yesidid in.
i have my ideas, but i am very interested to know yours.
yesidid
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They make huge issues out of normal human pleasures and interests and minimise really important issues such as family connections and individual differences.
I really agree with Steve's thoughts above.Also, that they must shelter and protect themselves against anything the Watchtower deems "worldly". They are then easily manipulated into believing anything.
The blood issue because innocent ppl die so unnecessarily.
That the FDS is God's channel.
Disfellowshipping, disassociating, marking because it violates the most sacred instituion, family and forces ppl to go against their natural inclinations to love.
Jez
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The more I learn, the more I don't believe it was inspired.
Jez
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social retard
by MerryMagdalene ini finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.
it really is painful and scary for me.
i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.
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Excellent interesting ramblings evilforce.
Jez
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social retard
by MerryMagdalene ini finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.
it really is painful and scary for me.
i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.
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Notice the number of my last post, look up! LOL
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social retard
by MerryMagdalene ini finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.
it really is painful and scary for me.
i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.
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Well! It seems Jez has a way of turning around an argument ? lesson well learned from the Mother Organization. Talk about bullshit. ?I stayed true to myself?? OH wait? ?I was in constant conflict?... then the label??Self-righteous holier than thou?. Jez, you started this with your assertion that you ?stayed true your self? - like the rest of us didn?t little girl? Are you better than the rest of us, somehow superior?
You were living a dual life ?not true to your self and not true to anyone else. I call that two-faced.
Start something? label the naysayers ? make a plea for sympathy ? conquer.
Score for one for Jez.LOL! I ask you to try to quote me in full next time. Taking quotes out of context and wrapping them around your arguement is very transparent here...You forgot the tailend of my quote, "I was in constant conflict over who I knew I was 'suppose' to be and who I really was."
I am not superior. Call my life what you will, your opinion of it is neither here nor there for me.
I score nothing, this is not a game.
I admit that I learned some lessons from 'mother organization'. Yah....so...your point is...?
Um...why are you calling me a little girl? That was just....weird....
Jez
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social retard
by MerryMagdalene ini finally figured out why i'm so socially retarded...it just hit me.. here i was sitting and wondering why i have such a hard time meeting new people, making friends, thinking of relevent things to say, and so on.
it really is painful and scary for me.
i was told who i could talk to, who i couldn't talk to, what i could say, what i couldn't say.
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CG: I have been racking my brain for examples of 'isolated' teens. I have thought of 2 in my old congregation like that and about 10 of us that were 'double-lifers'. You are so right when you said that, at that time, we never thought of being 'two-faced' or 'hypocritical' or 'not a 'real' witness'....I just assumed that their parents were strict. As if I would ever entertain the notion that it was the religion to blame!
Guess what, those 2 girls have led a hell of a life after they got away from their parents....they were both eventually df'ed and I hope they are healthy now in every way.
Odrade: I am walking on this journey with no idea of the destination nor the sideroads I must take to get there. I just try to learn from every experience I encounter...I have learned alot from my encounter with you.
Cheers Jez