i've finally had the opportunity to read the october 1, 2005 watchtower regarding education.
even though this board had already prepared me for what i was going to be seeing, it still surprised me.
i cannot believe that they are still demonizing post secondary education.
I remember when I told my JW mother that I was finishing my degree to get a better job, she tsked and said, "You are doing everything that we are counselled about NOT doing."
I said, "Who counselled?"
She "The society"
I said, "Who?"
She "THE society"
I said, "Who?"
She got the message and stormed off.
were you the kind that stayed up for hours the night before finding the perfect point and the perfect scripture...or were you the one that was hastily trying to through something together the morning of and panicking when you realized the circuit overseer was visiting.
and then there was me...i was lucky if i knew which magazines were "it" for that week, lucky if id read more than the first page, and developed a good deal of improve skill when that 25% "at home" rate popped up on my 1 door in 10. eeps.
im not sure if anyone realized just how seat of the pants my approach to field service actually was.
People don't want to be left out of things, so I would say,
"We have been having success talking to your neighbors about...."
or
"Many of your neighbors have enjoyed reading this article/book on..."
Worked almost everytime. Jez
a lot has happened to me since march.
i have learned so much.
i hesitated to put this out in jwd, but i now think that if it helps one person, it will have been worth it.
Hi Crumpet, No, I was not the stunning woman in white, although I am stunning.
It was good to release this story, organize it into words and paragraphs. Helps to put it into perspective and I just kept thinking during this whole ordeal, "others MUST be going through the exact same thing, I have to tell them my experience."
Jez
a lot has happened to me since march.
i have learned so much.
i hesitated to put this out in jwd, but i now think that if it helps one person, it will have been worth it.
To findingmyway and Willyloman:
Thank you very much for your words. I really did hesitate to put this out there, as I know my SIL might still read this site and 'check up' on me. I love her and I hope she knows that what I did, I did for her. I hope our relationship can grow into something different from this and that someday we will be able to talk about our lives and the experiences within them, openly and honestly. Even though this ordeal has bumped our relationship into the thistles, I hope it is temporary.
I did not need them to punish me. If they had shown true love from the beginning and not punished me, rather guided and counselled, I would not have left them. That is the bottom line. To be reinstated, and walk back into that KH, where all those people punished me for making the best decision I ever have in my life, is more than I can bear. To be friends with people that can profess to have love, but are bound by manmade rules to not display it to those that need it the most, is now, more than I can bear.
You are right, findingmyway, I don't recognize those people anymore and the funny thing is...that thrills me. I see right through them from the front, the side and the back.
Love to all Jez
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apologies if this has already been posted:.
http://www.indystar.com/apps/pbcs.dll/article?aid=/20051030/sports04/510300400
"We give our reverence to God rather than man," he said.
Isn't it strange how no matter who you talk to, all JWs spew the exact same reply when asked why they don't salute the flag? Doesn't it creep you out? So robotic and standardized. Jez
this may not seem like your typical doubt but it was the first time i allowed myself to question the bible and the wt's explanation of things.
about 6 years ago, i was assigned a talk on the man judah.
this was when we were doing talks on specific bible characters.
PROSTITUTION (and having more than one wife) are only recently socially taboo and even more modernly illegal (crimes) in many places. In bible times, prostitution was not a social taboo and was generally accepted. Why do you think Tamar was able to sit outside the gates in the first place!?Thus it was not a sin for Judah to go to a prostitute under both social customs/taboos of the time and later under Mosaic law. Only with the advent of Christianity (and beginning during the Maccabbean period of Judaism) did it start to become socially taboo to either be a prostitute or to go to one. Jesus' "one-wife" statement and Paul's & the other Apostles comdemnation of "fornication" went a long way to making prostitution a sin. This of course has been reflected in later Christianity and the larger cultural view of prostitution.
-Eduardo Leaton Jr., Esq.
That pretty well sums up why most of the bible cannot be used as a modern guide for living. Social customs/taboos/norms change.
Jez
Right, I remember that now. I miss reading her posts. I hope that all is well with her and that she pops in sometime.
Jez
my children are shunning me because the dubs told them too.
the scriptural reason they gave my children is that you're supposed to love jehovah above all else.
and the one about not speaking to a man who has turned from the road of righteousness (sp?)..
My mother and brother fanatically shunned me for years. When I was reinstated, I wrote a letter to my brother, I said alot of things but basically I told him that I got reinstated for the ones that did NOT shun me (my sister in law) and not for the ones that did. That I would never invite that kind of pain back into my life again, if they could do it once, they could do it again.
I told my mother the same thing.
I have gained so much from being disfellowshipped, so many new friends, and family, I don't need that kind of conditional love anymore.
Jez
Anyone heard anything from her??
Jez
sitting at work today.
a 16 year old student that is a jw answers the question of why do they not celebrate any holidays with the following: .
"basically, we don't celebrate anything that the bible does not tell us to celebrate.".
Did I ever tell you Gary that you are just a big teddy bear that I would love to hug up?
Jez
