Posts by Jez

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My JW G.F.-- Told parents about wanting to marry me. UPDATE

by PAJA in

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well as from my earlier posts, my jw gf told her parents she wanted to marry me last saturday.

they gave her the guilt treatment about not being a good jw and how marrage to a non jw is a sin etc.

and when i saw her monday she said she could not marry me anymore.

Jez

I don't want to take your feelings of love for her lightly, but I think that most mature ones on this board will agree with me that there are many people that we can love in our lifetime. Who we 'choose' to be with, is a different matter.

She is yanking your chain by insisting on holding all the cards. That is a JW ploy that they do without even realizing it. Making others run after THEIR affections. Ask any of us that have are disfellowshipped and are being shunned by family. They manipulate and hold over us our love. They want US to run after THEM. It is a very dangerous and hurtful game. Innocently, she is holding onto you for her own satisfaction, letting YOU run around trying to right the situation, yet she shows no displays of any 'unconditional' 'true' love. She is doing this by feeding you little morsels of love, little tokens of affections that you lap up like you are starving. How cruel to do to a person displaying real love. SO many of us have experienced being fed the morsels of JW love, it eats you alive inside out. I honestly don't know anymore if most JWs even know what it means to really really love someone. Their vision of love has been skewed.

Let her go. As harsh as that sounds, it is what you really want in the long run....for her to come to you OF HER OWN ACCORD, not pressured by YOU or pressured by her PARENTS, but of her OWN DECISION. Who wants someone with them that will not stand up and FIGHT for the one they love? Not me. I am so sorry you have to go through this, but there are many lessons you will learn.

Jez

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something i herd in the public talk last sunday

by NoAnswers in

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the brother that was giving the talk that day said, "many of you brothers sitying here today will never see death.

" i was like wtf ?

made me remember judge rutherford..... millions now living will never die

Jez

They have to feed them that lie every so often to remind them of the carrot in front of their face and the whole reason they do what they do. To get what they can from God-everlasting life. Not because they truly love him. Satan always maintained that humans would serve God based on what God could give them or take away. JW's prove Satan to be right.

Jez

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Your Most DREADED Dub Word

by GetBusyLiving in

i wanna hear the word that made you either physically nauseous or burst out in uncontrolable laughter.

please demonstrate it in a sentence as well.

mine was 'enthused' (my fingers were shaking as i typed).

Jez

"Jehovah"-Let's face it..it's not a pleasant word to say in public. Kind of like "vagina", or "colostomy bag".

LOL!

Here is a few I hate:

"Love and Greetings from the congregation in Timbukto, would you like to accept that?" (clap clap clap and some oooooo's and ahhhhhh's thrown in there, really I think it is just a chance for some people to brag about where they were on vacation)

"Living in the last days" huh?

"Kingdom ministry"

"Loving provisions from God" (they throw anything in that category)

"Sense stress and modulation" (I will never get that out of my head, I use to sit as a child and repeat that over and over again in my mind to pass the time, it became a chant)

"Worldwide brotherhood" (sounds freaky)

"Inactive" (according to WHO?)

"Disfellowshipped" (according to WHO?)

"Don't take your eyes off the prize" grrrrr

"The hope of everlasting life"

"Mental regulation"

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Kill the Kid, Now That's Justice! (WT 5/15/05 QFR)

by ezekiel3 in

this in it's entirety from the watchtower may 15, 2005, page 31. you might find the reasoning a bit hollow.

questions from readers.

why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?.

Jez

But boy oh boy, what fun I had before hand......

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Kill the Kid, Now That's Justice! (WT 5/15/05 QFR)

by ezekiel3 in

this in it's entirety from the watchtower may 15, 2005, page 31. you might find the reasoning a bit hollow.

questions from readers.

why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?.

Jez

Every event like this in the bible was written by man to put the fear of God into mankind. Welcome to the greatest collection of fairy tales ever written. Yes, perhaps loosely based on some actual event, but then expounded on for one purpose only. Believe these fairy tales and religion has got you in it's snare.

Adam and Eve

Noah and the Great Flood

David's son getting killed by God

God sending a bear out of the woods to eat children

Jezebel getting eaten by dogs

Moses

The big bad wolf (opps, got confused there for a min)

etc, etc, etc, etc,..............................................................

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FOR SALE:

by schne_belly in

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one slightly used briefcase.

also known as a "service bag".

all leather, great condition.

Jez

I've got some really bad shoes with pumps, nylons with a rip in the upper thigh area only (hay, if you can't see it, it doesn't matter, right girls?!), a pen that says Watchtower Bethel on it, a hardly ever used return visit book, and a few 'just below' the knee skirts.

Jez

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Family ,what would you do

by kls in

i am going to try and explain this with out dragging this on so here goes, i am the youngest of four sibblings,i have a older brother which i never see and two older sisters.

i am close to my sister that is close in age to me but have a sister that is about ten years older.

when i was a teen my dad killed himself and the mother was a 24 hr mean drunk who after my dads death was committed to a nut ward.

Jez

I hold grudges for a very very long time. I do not know what I would do in this situation but it would bug me about whether or not how I feel right now has been exaggerated over time, in my mind or not, would that change if I saw her, spoke to her? Is my anger blocking my vision? Would my anger lessen or increase? I am just too curious of a person to not have questions like that answered.

Family is overrated. Just because you are my sister/brother/mother/father etc...does not automatically mean I love and respect you. I guess love/respect are so entwined that if I don't respect someone, I can't love them.

But this is not me, this is you, so only you know what you can live with. Perhaps, go to her room, look in the door window....then decide what you want to do. Take your time and take one step at a time. Just by considering this as an option is one step. Just go to the hospital. Just walk to her room. Just look in the window. Just go in. Whatever, at each 'step' of the way, only you can decide whether you will continue on or turn around.

((kls)) Jez

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Bethel: Pathway to Apostasy

by Black Man in

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at the 'big house' you go either one of two ways, company man or apostate.

i think for many that went, it demystified the whole organization and you saw firsthand that there wasn't holy spirit influencing anything - only the muses of sheltered, out-of-touch old men and political bureaucrats.

i work in the corporate world and i saw just as much if not more politics in bethel.

Jez

I visited the Georgetown bethel once. We had friends there and so got a 'behind the scenes' tour. We met one of the GB, can't remember his name, LOVED horses and had sculptures of them in his office. His office was in the legal dept. I have a picture of myself with him. (I will have to look in my album to see if I have his name in there) We ate lunch at the farms, AWESOME food, but it is sooooo Amish. The men come in and sit down to a huge meal while the women stand and wait and serve. Their job is to cook and clean up after the men that work on the farm. It is so friggin backwards, I could not stop smiling (trying not to giggle) when one woman served 2 kinds of pie for dessert. At LUNCH time! I felt so sorry for these woman.

Then we ate dinner at Bethel. I was expecting some feeling to decend on me of peace and respect etc...but these ppl were just eager to eat and get out of the cafeteria. No one said hi to us, they went in cliques and ignored us, the prayer was terrible, we were out of there so quickly. I can't imagine living in such an atmosphere of 'just get it over with'.

Paradise? Ha, more like a low security prison.

Jez

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Kill the Kid, Now That's Justice! (WT 5/15/05 QFR)

by ezekiel3 in

this in it's entirety from the watchtower may 15, 2005, page 31. you might find the reasoning a bit hollow.

questions from readers.

why were david and bath-sheba not put to death for committing adultery, whereas their newborn son died?.

Jez

We can be confident that Jehovah dealt with the matter justly, for "perfect is his way."

In other words: "Don't question it, just accept it." The above is no more than a soother that they stick in the mouths of JWs to shut them up.

Jez

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Have you made "true friends" over the internet?

by JH in

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let it be this forum or any other, have you made "true friends" over the internet?.

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Jez

Absolutely!

Jez