This is an interesting topic. Going by my family (my siblings and cousins), only 3 of 10 of us escaped the clutches. From what I hear, 1 of the 3 escapees would consider returning if her Catholic husband weren't so opposed. Two of the 7 non-escapees took walks on the wild side and then returned; another of the non-escapees is less devout than some might wish, but 4 are by all accounts life-long, dyed-in-the wool JWs.
Margie
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How many kids never buy into the JW B/S???
by navytownroger inat the conventions, there always seem to be parents gushing about how their kids are 'in the truth', pioneering, etc.
i'm wondering how many jw kids just flat-out reject all the jw b/s right from the start.
surely there are some kids who just say 'no way!
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Doctrine on JWs marrying non-JWs?
by Margie ini haven't been here in a while, but it's nice to see so many old faces (posters).
anyway, i am wondering if anyone knows what doctrine exists, if any, on jws marrying non-jws.
my sister, a jw, is getting married to a non-jw in a couple of months.
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Now that I've posted these, I think I'm off base from the original question. Sorry for that. But this was such a sad and weird situation and since I've done the work, may as well leave the links. It's not too far off the specific subject so please forgive me.
I forgive you, Aude! It's not exactly what I was asking, but it's interesting and illuminating nonetheless, so thank you for posting your thoughts and the links. In my mom's case, I don't think there would be any negative repercussions with her congregation and I don't think my mom thinks there would be, either. For one thing, my sister's wedding will be in another state and won't be attended by any JWs other than her immediate family members that choose to attend.
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this makes me sick
by burningbridges inmy soon to be ex husband takes my daughter, who is two and a half, to the meetings still because our divorce judge awarded him her on those nights since i didnt attend a place of worship at the time of our split.
(well duh, i was recovering from a cult) i recently found out she has been "answering" at the meetings.
(she is very advanced for her age, very talkative and articulate) i'm just sick from this.
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Burningbridges, I would be upset, too. On the bright side, at least your daughter will see first-hand how ridiculous the JW beliefs are and with any luck will grow up to want nothing to do with that crackpot "religion."
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Doctrine on JWs marrying non-JWs?
by Margie ini haven't been here in a while, but it's nice to see so many old faces (posters).
anyway, i am wondering if anyone knows what doctrine exists, if any, on jws marrying non-jws.
my sister, a jw, is getting married to a non-jw in a couple of months.
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Princess Daisy Boo, thanks for sharing your story. I agree that my sister should just do whatever will make her and her intended happiest, but unfortunately, our mother's behavior is casting a pall on what should be a happy event. It makes me really upset for my sister.
Atlantis, thanks for the screen print.
It sounds as though my mother has doctrinal support for being a jackass over this matter, unfortunately. If anyone can think of a way to doctrinally support that my mother should attend (or is not prohibited from attending), it would be really helpful. Maybe I should just tell her that I posted the situation on a board filled with ex-JWs and they all support her not attending my sister's wedding. I'm sure she'll be happy that the apostate community agrees with her decision making, LOL.
Thanks again everyone.
ETA: Oompa, jgnat and mustang all posted while I was typing. Thanks for the food for thought. I really appreciate your all taking the time to respond.
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Doctrine on JWs marrying non-JWs?
by Margie ini haven't been here in a while, but it's nice to see so many old faces (posters).
anyway, i am wondering if anyone knows what doctrine exists, if any, on jws marrying non-jws.
my sister, a jw, is getting married to a non-jw in a couple of months.
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First, thanks WingCommander and yknot for responding. I agree, WingCommander, that the unwillingness to bend is, um, noteworthy. I don't understand how my mom thinks she's creating a good impression of the JW faith on potential sheep like my future brother-in-law. I should tell her that in my opinion, she's stumbling him.
yknot, my mom said that she thinks highly of her future son-in-law and intends to accept him fully as one of her children once he and my sister are married. This makes no sense because she's saying, in effect, that she will accept their marriage, but she cannot accept their wedding, not to mention that fact that if I were him, I'd have no interest whatsoever in being accepted as one of her children given the way she's treating one that she already has. Good grief. My sister isn't planning to get married in a KH, so there's no problem there.
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Bank of America took $3000 out of my checking account without telling us!
by LovesDubs inwe are filing bankruptcy in three days.
we finally got enough money together, which included our government incentive check, to pay the lawyer to do it and last night saw two withdrawals from our checking account!
perfectly legal the bank says.
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Bank of America, like many big banks, sucks. I don't blame you for being upset, LovesDubs. Have you tried calling your state's Attorney General's office?
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Doctrine on JWs marrying non-JWs?
by Margie ini haven't been here in a while, but it's nice to see so many old faces (posters).
anyway, i am wondering if anyone knows what doctrine exists, if any, on jws marrying non-jws.
my sister, a jw, is getting married to a non-jw in a couple of months.
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Margie
Hi again everyone. I haven't been here in a while, but it's nice to see so many old faces (posters).
Anyway, I am wondering if anyone knows what doctrine exists, if any, on JWs marrying non-JWs. My sister, a JW, is getting married to a non-JW in a couple of months. My mother said that she won't attend my sister's wedding, but my father and brother (both JWs) will attend. According to my JW family members, attendance at my sister's wedding is a "conscience matter," and my mother's conscience leads her in a different direction from my father's and brother's. My mom said that by not "marrying in the lord," my sister is breaking a vow she took to Jehovah when my sister was baptised at the ripe old age of 15. I asked my mom whether she wasn't attending my sister's wedding in order to protect her own salvation (ha!) or whether she was doing it to try to dissuade my sister from getting married at all. My mom gave sort of a mush-mouthed answer that I took to mean that my mom hasn't really thought it through, which probably means that what's at the root of my mom's decision is a need to passive aggressively register her disapproval with my sister's choice.
First, does anyone know if "marrying in the lord" really means marrying a baptized JW? I'm sure that's what everyone *thinks* it means that, but does it really? And what's with my mom's attendance being a conscience matter? My sister apparently isn't getting disfellowshipped for marrying a non-JW, so I'm confused about why my mom thinks that her attendance at my sister's wedding would be the same as my mom's attendance at a disfellowshipped person's wedding. That seems illogical. I know there must be about a million arguments that could be made for why my mom is wrong, so if anyone can suggest others, I'm all ears.
Thanks all.
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Cat is in trouble- advice?
by Insomniac inmy mom's cat got into some of her embroidery floss and swallowed it.. this was maybe three days ago.
her vet won't see him, too busy.
he's not eating much at all now, and i fear the worst.
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Poor kitty. :( I hope everything turns out okay for him.
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Give me something to celebrate! (Tell me some good news)
by AlmostAtheist inhey all,.
there are a few "what damage did the watchtower do to you?
"-type threads floating about, and it's easy to get sort of down over it all.
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My sister is coming to visit me tomorrow. That's the best news (for me, at least)!
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My JW sister wants her mom and siblings to pay for HER retirement!
by Who are you? inkind of long...thanks in advance for letting me vent!.
my sister has been a jw since 1974. she's been waiting for the end of this "system of things" since the fall of 1975. she never went to college.
she has had probably 80 or more jobs since 1974. she has no retirement savings.
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This situation makes me really sad for your family. There must be a lot of older JWs in the same boat as your sister (i.e., having nothing for retirement) and it must be scary as hell to be in that situation. Your sister must feel pretty desperate. Of course, your sister's situation now is the totally foreseeable outcome of her choices throughout her life. I don't have any advice. I just hope you and your family are able to work this out in whatever way is best. Good luck.