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  Possible 2 Tier System?

  by Englishman in

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  someone - i can't recall who - posted an opinion that the jw relgion would shortly split into 2 separate bodies.. as i recall, the poster opined that 1 group would remain as fundamental as it is now, whilst the other would go much more mainstream, maybe even abandoning contentious beliefs such as shunning and refusing blood.. if i remember correctly, the writer felt that the 2 groups would still remain under the control of brooklyn, but they would actually be of separate 'classes'.

  something like ordinary catholics and jesuits, i guess.. i can't find the post, but i think that it is an interesting concept.

  it would certainly solve many of their problems to have an elite class alongside a junior one, it would also allow the fds to fade away gracefully.

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  battman

  Eman,
  Zounds, what a great idea!! Sign me up for duh minor
  league for sure!! Don't remember the previous thread
  but like the concept. IMHO you seem to be on target
  with significan changes ahead.

  Just as the printing press combined with inexpensive
  paper allowed Luther's message to gain a wide audience
  and change the dominant and controlling religious tone
  of his day so will the "net" accomplish the same effect
  in our day. The time frame will be greatly compressed!!!

  "a time for everything and everything in its time."

  battman
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  active and happy jw

  by scumgrief in

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  i am an active jw and was raised as one.

  i have been watching the site for a while and thought it could benefit from the opinions of someone who is happily a member of the jw's.

  i will not get into any argumets that lead to nothing except name calling, and will not talk with anyone who is just plain mean (plenty of them in here).

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  battman

  Scummer,

  Go to your KH Library and read up in the Emphatic Diaglott
  about your comment of door to door.

  "When Jesus preached door to door, most people thought
  he was a wacko too."

  The original Greek that was written says that Paul taught
  them in their "houses of worship" not house to house and
  not door to door. Again the WT changes/adds to "inspired"
  scriture to satisisfy their need to go door to door to sell
  mags to get the money. Just follow the money, just follow
  the money a quote from deep throat re: WaterGate scandal.

  You have your work cut out here. You can believe what ever
  you want but your 2+2 will never = 4. If you can live with lies,
  deception, intellectual dishonesty then have fun.

  Ask your self would Jesus ever asscoiate or condone this
  manner of conduct?

  battman
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  Everything is Relative

  by joelbear in

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  if an idiot thinks you are stupid, what does that mean?.

  joel

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  battman

  hiya jbear,

  Never argue with an idiot, someone may walk
  by and not realize which one is the idiot.

  been there, done that for sure.

  cheers,

  battman
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  If evolution is true ?

  by D wiltshire in

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  if evolution is true and god doesnt exist, and all matter always existed, and life keeps adapting and getting more and more advanced, conquering all problems set before its existence.. then life should have already filled the entire universe and advanced to the point of never dying.. am i being presumptuous?.

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  if someone lived a trillion x longer than you, and had a billion x more reasoning ability would he come to the same conclusions as you?.

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  battman

  yup
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  whats a dub ? is this an americanism ?

  by alliwannadoislive in

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  the term 'dub' originates from where exactly ?

  - i understand that it's used in reference to those considered 'active' jws, but as to what the term actually means i dunno - please enlighten me ...

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  battman

  maybe you are a dub and don't know it.

  hope not tho
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  My niece's change of heart.....

  by Tatiana in

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  in my never-ending task of trying to get my niece out of jws clutches, i have good news.

  just a brief history.

  my lifetime jw mom raised my niece from the age of 9 due to my sister's alcohol and drug abuse.

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  battman

  I think all the work you have done is definetly
  worthwhile yet I will never cease to be amazed
  that:
  "everything they did and said backfired on them"

  seems to be the opening crack. It is from within
  not from without that starts the thinking process.
  hahahhahahahahahahahaha.

  The loyal dubs are soooo concerned with out
  side influence when it is their own miserable
  behavior that cracks the door open. Such was
  my case also.

  Hope all continues and really enjoyed your post!!

  battman
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  Message Blurred

  by joelbear in

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  toward the end of my pioneering days i remember beginning to run into people from churches who told me they believed they would live on earth forever.

  they believed jesus would live here with them.

  i also ran into trouble distinguishing witness beliefs in other areas from other denomination's beliefs.. after 25 more years, i would think this would be even more the case now.. has anyone who has recently left noticed more of this blurring of differences between jw doctrine and regular christian church doctrine?.

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  battman

  Hi jbear,
  good thought. imvho i believe that we are
  just starting to see this blurring effect and
  it will really start to accelerate in the next
  few years. in another 5-10 years the wts
  will be as bland and indistinguable as cold
  oatmeal. the heat, passion, vision, direction
  is long gone to the "committee graveyard".

  where is lee iaccoca when we need him?
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  Cough Cough, Splutter Choke, Gruuugh Bleah!

  by Englishman in

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  how do you feel about people who smoke in public places such as bars and restaurants?

  if i complain about smokers in my pub, they say: "it's a pub, what do you expect?".

  i can't see the reasoning here.

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  battman

  I believe that in California the state
  banned all smoking in bars, clubs
  etc. Within several months even
  the non-smoking workers in those
  places noticed much improved
  heatlth, less colds and sickness.

  seems to stand to reason.

  battman
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  I finally got glasses!

  by Bendrr in

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  btw, i turned 30 thursday nov. 1.. i finally broke down and went to lenscrafters today.

  did the exam and selected transitions lenses.

  when they made the glasses and i tried them on it was awful!

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  battman

  I did lasik corrective eye surgery last year.

  WOW what a wonderful experience.

  shortly after that i found this board and

  now I Can See, I can See I am no longer blind!!!!
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  If we were a congregation?

  by joelbear in

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  if the group here was a congregation, what role would each person here play?.

  joel

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  battman

  I would be the wantabe brother who had his
  "privledges" stripped and deleted as a MS
  cuz my two teen aged daughters, who were
  ignored by the in group, ended up with (gasp)
  worldly friends!!

  I would be the brother who was forced out of
  his home by his super JW wife for being spirit-
  ually weak.

  I would be the brother who filed for divorce when
  my ever faithful (to FDS) wife of 30 years took a
  postion of zero comprimise, zero tolerance, zero
  forgiveness.

  I am the brother who is now labeled as "bad
  association" for seeking a divorce. hahahahaha

  I am the brother who has slipped thru the cracks
  and no one has the balls to contact.

  Sorry for the serious tone but it helps to get this
  off my chest. I love you guys and totally jealous
  of all your good humor and often find my self
  ROTFLMAO and wid tears in my eyes laughing
  so hard.

  I apprciate all the comments here and feel that my
  life has been rescued.

  Free at last, free at last, free at last.

  I even have found a girl friend!! (gasp not only is
  she worldly but an x-Morman) toooo funny,

  cheers to all,

  Battman