If they fight it and lose they save face with the congregations - if they give up and pay they lose internal consistency. If the JWs honestly feel that they should not be held accountable as an organisation then they should fight it. If they don't they lose far more than a mere 20 million dollars in my mind.
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97I think the Society might drop its appeal over the Conti case
by cedars ini've been giving some thought to the recent development in which the judge has ruled that the society is barred from completing any property transactions until the appeal is over, which could take up to two years or even more.. i've submitted an article to randy at freeminds in which i basically argue that it is no longer in the society's interests to appeal this case.
if i correctly understand the restrictions placed on the society by the judge, then the governing body has far more to lose by appealing than they could conceivably gain.. think about it.... by appealing, they buy themselves time in which to formulate a long-term strategy for dealing with the fallout of this case, but will be barred from liquidating $1 billion in property assets at a time of global economic uncertainty when their donations are dwindling.
there is also no guarantee that their appeal will be upheld.by dropping their appeal, they take a hit and pay $23.8 million but retain the freedom to see through their real estate projects; retain their financial flexibility to respond to dwindling donations, and get to pretend to their followers (as with the un scandal) that it never happened.of course, i am only saying that dropping the appeal would be the only intelligent option for the society, assuming they are aware of how legally precarious their child abuse policies are.
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I Started the Complaint Process to the New York Times
by Band on the Run ini was bitterly disappointed that the times only ran a dinky ap article rather than a nyt staff reporting article.
the difference is night and day.
ap articles appear to be cobbled together press releases with no context or history from a neutral source.
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Is there a facebook group about this? Seems like it would be good if anyone searching for 'Jehovah's Witnesses' on facebook should be greeted with this group as an option. As long as it was simply an information page for the ongoing trial findings rather than an open group then I can imagine people woul dclick in to see what the news is?
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When 'this' means 'that', 'you' means 'someone else' and 'shortly' means 'so far in the future you will be long buried and forgotten'
by JWB inwhen 'this' means 'that', 'you' means 'someone else' and 'shortly' means 'so far in the future you will be long buried and forgotten'.
"so he groaned deeply with his spirit, and said: 'why does this generation seek a sign?
truly i say, no sign will be given to this generation.
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Qcmbr
Excellent op.
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, don't you want me?
You know I can't believe it when I hear that you won't see me
Don't, don't you want me?
You know I don't believe you when you say that you don't need me
It's much too late to find
You think you've changed your mind
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Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal
by Dogpatch in30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.
i am passing this on.
cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.
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Let's hope this is a significant wake up moment for many people. I have a JW friend on Facebook and I want to post this (for my LDS friends and family) but I'm unable to click the buttons....aahhhrrgg social constraint, so alien!
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Watchtower's Billion Dollars of Property Cannot Be Sold until Outcome of Conti Appeal
by Dogpatch in30 minutes ago i just got off the phone with some important players in this case, and some things were relayed to me concerning a lot of details of the outcome of the last two days of court.
i am passing this on.
cynthia hampton, one of the main players in the candace conti case (and a close friend of 28 years), just informed me of a further, far more powerful move by the state of california against the watch tower bible and tract society of new york, inc.. by order of the superior court of the state of california - county of alameda (see documents below), until the watch tower's appeal, which won't begin until august 13th and will take up to two years to settle due to due process of law, has forbidden the watch tower to sell any more of its $1 billion in assets in the borough of brooklyn until the appeals case is finished, to assure they won't shelter their monies in the light of this most huge and devastating sexual abuse scandal ever to hit the watch tower society, and perhaps any other single-victim lawsuit.
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They will treat this as kindling to their belief that the world will finally turn against them. They will be the happiest they've ever been.
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Societies $1billion in real estate assets frozen until Conti case resolved!
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Qcmbr
..don't use IE. Chrome ;)
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
- read more at bbc.... i never thought i would offer praise of a tory leader but hey credit where its due..
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Slim - if Argentina had the military might to take the Falklands there would be no diplomatic posturing from them they'd just do it. If the US did not support the British then we would be forced to concede the Islands. This is how it all works when it comes to military might. However, Britian is militarily stronger than Argentina so this has to be done diplomatically. Britain gains nothing from sellings it's people or it's resources or it's pride to Argentina. Argentina offers nothing but poor governance, political ineptitude, theft of resources and displacement of the population. Argentina are too weak to press their claims by force and have too weak a legal claim to push for it diplomatically. So it's stunts and hand waving.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
- read more at bbc.... i never thought i would offer praise of a tory leader but hey credit where its due..
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Nomad - when you say the British are you saying the soldiers or the Falklanders? Are you suggesting depopulation of the Island? That seems an odd approach.
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David Cameron Confronts Cristina Fernandez (UK v Argentina)
by cofty incameron briefly confronted the argentine president cristina fernandez de kirchner when they met at the g20 meeting in mexico today.. the prime minister told ms fernandez she should "respect the views" of islanders who are taking part in a referendum on the issue of control.
- read more at bbc.... i never thought i would offer praise of a tory leader but hey credit where its due..
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Care to point out why Hong Kong is a model for the Falklands?