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  Surviving 2014

  by Defianttruth in

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  2. friends

  sometimes i get stuck in the "ruts of my past".

  i worry about the family i have lost and the pain i live with because of this cult.

  this is my plan for 2014. i'm going to do things out of my comfort level.

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  Qcmbr

  ..confused do I need to be a lesbian or a cross dresser to accomplish both 1 and 2?;)
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  A mormon pm's me

  by paranoia agent in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  just read your thread about oblivion to oblivion, watched the video you posted and wondered if you'd be willing to let me send you some videos on the book of mormon.

  as you may know, i'm lds and i believe there's substantial evidence for the historicity of the book.

  but i'm also aware there's evidence and proof.

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  Qcmbr

  I sympathise but I also am a bit sad you posted a pm in public without prior agreement.
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  Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

  to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

  you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

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  Qcmbr

  The ward clerk takes meeting attendance counts and provides a monthly report.
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  Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

  to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

  you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

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  As of 31 December 2012, The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints reported 188,462 members in 45 stakes, 335 Congregations (286 wards[1] and 49 branches[1]), 6 missions, and 2 temples in the United Kingdom. (wikipaedia)

  I'm part of an active ex LDs community and in a straw poll of the 200 members of that group a rough average active membership per ward , being generous, was 120.

  120 * 335 = 40200.

  188462 - 40200 = 148262 inactive members in the UK.
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  Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

  to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

  you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

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  Qcmbr

  Hi - nope - the actual figures are much lower. The 14 million include those who have taken their names off the membership records but are still counted.
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  Mormons getting hollowed out: The tipping point has occurred.

  by Qcmbr in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  ever since mitt romney turned the spotlight on the lds church a growing tsunami of disaffection has been accelerated and brought to a head.. the lds core faithful members are leaving in increasing numbers such that growth has not simply stagnated in the west but it has actively reversed.

  to their credit the church is responding aggressively but not only is it too late, it is an impossible task.

  you can only paint sh*t so many ways.

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  Qcmbr

  Just a quick update: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RV7rmfex4VI&sns=fb
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  ..and its a great point podo! if you really look at the BoM it is filled with this kind of mistake that a poorly educated farm boy with a vivid imagination and the basic libraries available to him at the time would be expected to make in the construction of a fantasy.
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  Qcmbr

  When I believed I couldn't understand the relevance of no outside scholars agreeing with BoM historical claims. It was this huge gaping blind spot in my thinking that stopped me realising the obvious. If Cold can stop and think about why no one else in the world of science , history , Egyptology or archaeology agrees with any core Mormon assertions it will hopefully break this mental block. It amazes me how powerful and blinding belief makes us. The constant reliance on faith over rational logic in an evolutionary world still gives me pause to think about what evolutionary advantage faith must give.
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  Qcmbr

  While you are at it have a look at what your best evidence for the Book of Mormon is - the killer argument. I suggest you'll choose between chiastic forms or NHM/NHR. We have more evidence for a tiny Viking settlement in Americas than for the huge Jaredite , Nephite and Lamanite civilisations. hmm.
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  Ever consider joining The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints?

  by rawe in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  has anyone here left jehovah's witnesses to join the churuch of jesus christ of latter-day saints?

  what was your motivation for doing so and how has it worked out?.

  if you haven't joined the lds or considered it, as an ex-jw, what is your general view of the lds faith?.

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  Qcmbr

  You really think your evidence against is better than my evidencefor

  Yes - that's why I was forced to confront reality despite wanting it all to be true. You don't know what your line is the sand is. With Joseph and the church you have no criteria for determining what is true or false. Right now you would struggle to articulate what would be too far, too ridiculous, too far fetched in the history of JS. This is where I was.

  Please feel free to compare the list of Book of Mormon animals

  Asses
  Cattle
  Cows
  Cummoms
  Cureloms
  Elephants
  Fish
  Game
  Goat
  Horses
  Oxen
  Serpents
  Sheep
  Swine
  Vultures

  with the indigenous animals of North and South America and see how many hits you get and ask yourself why Joseph didn't include any easy hits.

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_South_American_mammals

  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_mammals_of_North_America