Posts by Qcmbr

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A question for Athiests.

by new hope and happiness in

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i am now an athiest myself, but i think being an athiest its a bit like having a faith.

some get very hooked on it and "preash" others (like me) simply get with with there lifes.

i am sure that some athiests like to have discussions about the non existence of " god" in a similar way that "thisists" do about the existence of god.

I do not try and convert because I am an atheist. I try and convert because I'm an anti-theist and less specifically anti-faith. I belief that faith and religion are terrible problems for mankind that lead to crimes against humanity and an atrocious waste of human intellectual and physical resources. I am happy to use the tools beloved by religion (evangelism, polemic and emotional appeal) while rejecting the principles of religion (sin, division and moral absolutism) to do my best to make the world a better place.

This is the dream :) - get over here and check out rationalism and stuff.

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Where was the dead body of Jesus? Did the disciples disappear it?

by opusdei1972 in

i am currently an skeptic, but i have to admit that i can't assure that all the stuff of early christianity was false.. for instance, we know that the genuine letters of paul were written before the destruction of jerusalem.

so, paul affirmed that jesus resurrected, though he was not there when it supposedly happened.

but, if jesus did not resurrect, why didn't the jews expose this falsehood?.

Qcmbr

If Jesus existed then maybe he didn't die as evidenced by post-cruxifiction activities so:

Imposter (why did no one recognise him).
Someone took fall for him.
He didn't die on cross (on there a few hours , soldier bribed to claim speared) and needed some time to recover.
Elaborate ruse worked up by someone in authority (a high level convert).

If Jesus did die:

Imposter
Made up stories

What did not happen:

Came back to life from a dead state due to supernatural reasons after paying supernatural debt to supernatural self to fulfil supernatural laws broken by supernatural first man and woman.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

No.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

Woot well based on that amazing evidence I'm convinced.

So who needs paying so I can be a god spirit thingy?

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Poll--How Many Believe In God, Do Not Believe or Are Not Sure Of His Existence?

by minimus in

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friends

i believe in god but i'm not sure of anything....what about you?.

Qcmbr

Initially atheist but recently coming under the sneaking suspicion I may actually be divinity myself at least if my wife is to be believed by what she calls me during evening activities.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

There is nothing impressive about a handful of people who have expressed an atheist position changing their mind. Oh hang on my bad, obviously it is impressive so spirit.

In the real world people make all kinds of choices. If you want to look for information based upon trends ask yourself why the more educated people become the more they reject magic thinking. There is a reason why more scientifically minded people reject the gods of their past than convert to faith based woo. I will allow you or Newton or Psychic Sally to enlighten us.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

Ex of course I've got it 'wrong' you have clearly stumbled upon incredible truth and have stepped far past the fumbling buffoonery of academic knowledge. You quote from a Michael Newton who got his qualifications at clown school and sells woo books for a career and has no supporting references but dont let that stop you, you are not wrong, fight the good fight and hail Wotan.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

Why do we not recognise mankind's repeated ability to fool itself into believing when nothing is there. Entire civilisations have come and gone devoted to imaginary gods and still we sink vast resources and waste intellect on chasing the current gods that are also false. The christians have hundreds of versions of the old hebrew god who himself is an amalgamation of older gods and yet every single one is adamant that they have it right and god talks to them. Its adult playtime and they're all blithering idiots.

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Why is the world full of ATHEISTS?

by exWTslave in

bible describes atheism as a condition of the heart and is all about seeking what is ephemeral, not acting with insight.

(psalm 14:1, 2) thus it rightly says the whole world is lying in the attraction of what is ephemeral.

(wicked one is not a correct translation.1 john 5:19) thus even believers who pray to god (for material blessings) are actually atheists as they are not trying to be poor in spirit.

Qcmbr

The 'sages' were making it up as usual hence the tripe above. The scientific method is the first time humanity has approached the aquisition of knowledge in a structured and rational way. This accumulation of peer reviewed and tested knowledge reveals a better model of reality than all the mystic, psycho babble of spirit based philosophy. A good example is the categorisation of more than five senses that immediately makes the OP irrelevant. As for the question of atheists I would ask why there are no digitally recorded manifestations of gods? You'd think one at least would grab the opportunities afforded by youtube. When people can freely share information and can examine their beliefs critically the cultural belief in magic is revealed as pious fraud. You may be onto something with cranial voids filled with air for those who reject reality and persist with woo.

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My Elderette returns for a final Bible Study session, after I avoided her for 2 months (very long post)

by Faithful Witness in

some of this will be repeat, since it's been a little while since i posted about my "bible study" sessions with miss k, my elderette.

we are talking about the name of jehovah.

thanks for talking with us today.

Qcmbr

" She was surprised to see that I also had a friend with me, Diana, an evangelical Christian who has compassion for people who are trapped in cults like JW's and LDS." Sigh