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Posts by Qcmbr
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11faith, faithlessness and judgmentalism
by pepheuga init's a shame that nobody ever looked good in responding to the question, "do you have faith in god?
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it makes one seem.....well, a bit of an onion.
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faith, faithlessness and judgmentalism
by pepheuga init's a shame that nobody ever looked good in responding to the question, "do you have faith in god?
", by answering "no".
it makes one seem.....well, a bit of an onion.
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I have to say I must stand up for my belief in God. For me I believe - why I asked if He was there and got an answer that was stunning. I've been a missionary and I've seen some well freaky stuff but I've also had some very special experiences that convince me of God's existence much more than bible stories do. The arguement that you can't prove God is just so much smoke and mirrors - why does everything have to be proved - what on earth does proof mean. You can give me any proof you want and I can use reason to disprove it. What I'm far more interested in than proof is experience . I feel the world is very like the zen concept of the stream - forever in flux and totally interconnected. Faith is doing something about that interconnectedness. If its good it will feel / result in good. To continue the zen analogy don't sit on the river bank whinging about the inability to define the river - it doesn't need defining you just have to step in and experince it. Life has things that make us happy - that is truth - life also has things that make us unhappy - that's not truth. What I'm trying to say is stop worrying whether God exists or not, look for things that are true and make you ahppy - if God does exist that will become self evident - if He doesn't then whatever is true will manifest itself. God's in my stream:) Ewwww I sound so born again....
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Men who lie with men.....
by cindykp in1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
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Just for some perspective I have some very dear friends who are gay - one was my best man at my wedding! I don't hate gays!
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Men who lie with men.....
by cindykp in1corinthians 6:9 men who lie with men will not inherit gods kingdom.
so i guess its ok for women to lie with women cause we're not mentioned in there!
lol
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I couldn't resist - though I know I'm in the minority here and will be flamed to toasty bits. I think homosexual activity is not right. Why - let me explain. I think the purpose of relationships of a sexual nature are to propagate the species. Multiply and replenish the earth. I think modern society (in accordance with just about all historical civilisations) is suffering from a surfeit of physical gratification - anything you want is yours (as long as your credit is good ;) We find that all forms of sexual experimentation increase as our basic needs are met and we are no longer responsible for fulfilling them (when was the last time you had to forage for food? - eating pizza the morning after amidst the beer cans doesn't count!!!) So society begins to twist what sex and more critically family life is for. Sex becomes not a means of having children but a means of pleasure for and of itself with its natural conclusion stopped (abortion , contraception and sterilisation are much more common now.) Relationships become very selfish - everyone starts to look for soul mates and the 'right' one (which of course means that homosexual behaviour is absolutely within remit.) Marriage is not required for this either and so society begins to reduce its dependance / encouragement of marriage. Net result many individuals floating in and out of relationships. This is where gay and lesbian life flourishes because in a world of gratification all ideas and senses are open for experimentation. Children are taught about sex earlier and earlier and when the school isn't pumping it out (I am not choosing my words well hehe) the music and media bombards kids and young people with sexual images and ideas constantly. That has an effect. People become confused about lots of things as they are given seemingly endless choices and sex is just another commodity to the world. Many people who think they are gay aren't full stop. There are some people who genuinely are gay - they feel an attraction for people of their own sex. There are some people who are fashionably gay. There are some people who are just confused and are trying things out. Why is this wrong - if we stop the noise of the world and think clearly and quietly - the most important thing in this world are our children. Children deserve a stable loving home with their biological parents ( blood really is thicker than water.) Where accident and tragedy deny kids this that is a harsh reality of life. Where adult decisions made in selfishness deny them this that is criminal. What has this to do with Homosexuaity? 1/ It is part of a liberalising force that is destroying families from all sides. 2/ It is confusing for our children to be exposed to it at a formative age. Many actively gay people are not gay. 3/ 'Homosexuality' in the west promotes a very sexually active / partner swopping lifestyle. - no stability. This is reflected just as much now in the heterosexual climate. 4/ Homosexuality is never seen as something wrong - in every other aspect of human life anything that involves an inability to meet a human biological goal is deemed as something in the medical domain. For some reason homosexuals have decided that they have nothing biologically wrong. I find that in startling agreement with paedophiles who see their desire as correct. Homosexuality is clearly as much of a debilitating mental condition as any of the other things like depression, schizophrenia etc.. This means that homosexuals are as valid as anyone else in society - cherished and accepted but they still have something that makes them want to do something wrong! What it is no one yet knows but there is clearly a chemical / genetic reason for it. 5/ For men at least it often requires sex in a way that makes me want to hurl - the body was not designed to do this. Homosexuality is very prevalent with men and unfortunately can be one factor in paedophilia - along with all the heterosexual wrongs (like porn.) 6/ Children are not produced by homosexual relationships without further artificial intervention. These children are growing up without parental relationships that they deserve - it is not teh right of the homosexual couple to deny children the right biology and nature (and God) gave them. There - flame away!!!
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Steven Hassan: questions to ask any group to determine if they are a cult
by Check_Your_Premises indoes anyone know where i could find this list of questions?
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Have to say though - this would all have applied to the new 'Christians' following the charismatic Jesus many years ago. The danger of labelling anything/body (including cults) is it actually says more about us than it does about them. To clarify my point- a believeing JW is not 'blind', 'stupid' , 'emotionally crippled' , a cult member etc.. if we believe 'they' are its our personal world view we are trying to impose on 'them' just as much as 'they' are trying to impose their own view on others. In other words not all JWs are nuts, not all Mormons are incredibly gorgeous and cute, not all Brits have wonky teeth (oh hang on ..) - I just like this site because everyone has the chance to be individual - surely labelling is one thing we're trying to say 'cya' to ????????
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Are UK JWs more faithful the US JWs?
by Qcmbr indo you find there are significant differences in religious commitment across the atlantic?
feel free to chip in if your from another country which is even more die hard / soft and slushy than the us /brits.
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Do you find there are significant differences in religious commitment across the Atlantic? Feel free to chip in if your from another country which is even more die hard / soft and slushy than the US /Brits.
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What Annoys You???????
by minimus inone of my pet peeves is being behind a too slow driver.
it "drives" me crazy!
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Women with prams in the shopping centre (mall.) They dawdle around as though they are in an art gallery and then randomly change direction or WORST of all stop dead. No warning just brakes on and just sag. I know women can multitask but apparently not when they are surrounded by shops and a four wheel kneecap machine.
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who is who on here??
by holly ini know there are mostly ex jw's on here.
i just wondered how many of you are ex jws, left or df'd, how many are still in but have lost heart?.
are there any jws on here who still believe its all the truth, go to meetings and trust the organisation?.
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..technically its not 'my' church. I figure with my tithing I've only bought the front porch.
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who is who on here??
by holly ini know there are mostly ex jw's on here.
i just wondered how many of you are ex jws, left or df'd, how many are still in but have lost heart?.
are there any jws on here who still believe its all the truth, go to meetings and trust the organisation?.
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Qcmbr
I'm LDS. My church is way cool:)
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Are there any 'true' churches ?
by Qcmbr injust a question because of course we all either believed we were in the 'truth', are still in the 'truth' have left and found the 'truth', there is no 'truth' or that the only truth is found in the trailer park with a bottle of bud and a bunch of 'pozzies:)
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Just a question because of course we all either believed we were in the 'truth', are still in the 'truth' have left and found the 'truth', there is no 'truth' or that the only truth is found in the trailer park with a bottle of bud and a bunch of 'pozzies:)