PS I'm not converting to the Hindu faith either - I don't have an answer to this from my background and both he and I saw how patently bizzare it is for some 'god' to want to drink milk however, we have said a couple of times that if God exists he would have to prove it and this is just about wierd enough to pass as a faith promoter for hindus so just to be fair to God maybe this was a sign then again maybe something strange happened with some natural law that allowed capilliary action in rocks to act super quickly and remove bucketloads of milk and deposit it somewhere else..? Dunno.
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257Prove to me that God exists
by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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Prove to me that God exists
by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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Actually Doogie I said the same thing and he said that at first he agreed but when he saw pails of milk disappearing he began to think that maybe capillary action wasn't enough to remove gallons of milk (the queues were large.) He says it would be easy to pass it off as wishful thinking if it wasn't for the sheer quantity of milk involved and also the fact that it didn't happen the next day even with little teaspoons of milk. I know its cr*p to pass on reported stories since they are now once removed from the person who saw it but I can assure you my colleague is not particullarly religious , is very logical and very very well educated. He said he wouldn't believe it at all expect for the fact he saw it.
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JW terminology really gets my goat
by Ellie in.
i don't know if its just me or if anyone else feels the same but it really annoys me when jehovahs witnesses use their terminology when speaking to a non jw.. for example, a jw woman is talking to a collegue who has never had a bible study and knows nothing about jws.. instead of saying "i have a friend coming for tea tonight" the woman says " one of the sisters is coming for tea tonight".. or, instead of "i was talking to a friend on the phone last night" she says "i was talking to an elder on the phone last night".. it just really winds me up, i think they do it to seem important and mysterious but it only leaves the other person confused.
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This behaviour is typical of any group. Any organisation (including couples / families) will create an internal dialogue - an in set of words that denote the shared common experience and give a sense of belonging. Its also fairly practical in that their is an awful lot of meaning tied up in the buzzword and using it instead of continually reffering to its contextual history is something that makes conversations quiker and sharper for the in crowd. The easiest place to see this, except in a church, is with kids and playground slang.
Where this crosses over from social smoothing and inclusive shared knowledge is when it is used as a tool to exclude - 'insiders', by referring to the buzzword without an explanation move outsiders, linguistically into the role of 'other.'
Not pleasant and many groups esp. religious ones are guilty as heck - mind you there are several words that float around this group here:)
Troll, borg , troof.. (don't know how many of these are fun crossovers from JW culture:) -
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Prove to me that God exists
by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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Had an interesting discussion with a work colleague - apologies if this is a little off topic but I thought it worth sharing - He is a hindu by birth and isn't religious except in a cultural way (just the same way many people celebrate Christmas with nativities but no real religious observance.) Anyhow, he was in India at the time of the 'milk drinking' Ghanesh(?) episode which I remember seeing on TV (7 years ago?). In a nutshell some woman had a dream that this God wanted to drink milk ...(shrugs) so that morning she 'fed' the statue milk and it was sucked up. She passed this message onto her family and it spread from there on to the world. The point of this is that my colleague said he was there watching the crowds line up with pails of milk outside the temples and he decided he would put aside his doubts and just give it ago. He said that sure enough all the little Ghanesh statues in his house appeared to drink the milk. He was a little tken aback and decided to try it on a picture of this God on a calendar and this calendar 'drank' a glass of milk with no soggy patches or drips (he was tipping the glass slowly over the picture) - he said it really freaked him out because he isn't a believer. He said it was one of those moments when all the things you take for granted - the solid material world - took a bit of an intellectual shake and he said he know thinks that their is something happening out there but he hasn't got a clue what. Just to follow up he said it only happended that once - the next day there was no milk drinking by any of his Ghanesh statues etc..
I just sat their a bit stunned and he asked what it all meant because he didn't have a clue but he knows that a load of milk dissappeared into little statues and the calendar on that day. Oh and while I remember he said it was happening on any images of this god everywhere - he said he went outside and tried it on a little gold relief and the milk disappeared.
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Prove to me that God exists
by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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..sometimes I wonder whether their is room in an equal society for anyone religious! I find it strange that condescension, rudeness and sarcasm colour many of the comments. It makes it kinda hard to say anything if people's lame arse answer to anything proposed requires reference to a part of someones religion that they don't believe in.
Ah well.
I believe in God - it is probably impossible to prove that sort of thing here on a message board any more than its possible to prove love, hope or consciousness - these things only come by the living and experiencing. One day maybe those who are so quick to deride God and His adherants will have a one on one personal experience with Deity - at least you'll know what the other side of the arguement feels like - the one where you've had something incredibly precious and when you share it other people just take the mick. -
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by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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Hey Cinema - you never answered my questions - its abit off to say no one is on topic when several people are actively debating it.
For those who said that God is an invisible God what about those people who saw God
Jesus was seen by many witnesses and he claimed to know God / be God.
Many prophets have seen God and recorded that experience in scripture.
Just for the arguement - this whole debate is exactly why JS vision was so important to the LDS faith - it clearly defined God as more than our invisible friend.
Then you have to add to the mix the millions of people who have had spiritual experiences - now this was my point about what evidences would be allowed - materialists would be inclined to reject anything of a spiritual nature as unprovable. There are however several instances of spiritual experience that have been shared (Toronto Blessing). -
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by CinemaBlend ini need debate practice on the subject for the next time i'm cornered.
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Abbaddon - actually not all - LDS don't belive in spontaneous generation of a God either.
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Anyone heard of the expanding earth theory?
by Qcmbr inin my ongoing trawl of geological info i cam across an interesting theory regarding the expansion of the earth causing the split of pangea as opposed to plate tectonics.. http://www.expanding-earth.org/ .
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have fun.
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Dr - I think the idea is that plants convert sunlight and grow - the biomass is added to the weight of the earth and when they decay they add to the total mass of the earth which only loses a fraction of the gases produced to space - something like that.
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French vote no to EU constitution
by Qcmbr innormally i'm a disliker of all things gallic but tonight i could kiss their oniony butts.
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..I'm in shock..EF you and I often seem on opposite sides of rainbow and here we are kinda agreeing... I'm off to bed ..I feel a bit light headed :)
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French vote no to EU constitution
by Qcmbr innormally i'm a disliker of all things gallic but tonight i could kiss their oniony butts.
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I love my country and its independence. The EU may make the fat cats richer but it centralises power further awy from my country.
I hate the CAP - it means I pay higher prices for many groceries,it also means that many countries who rely on agricultural exports are struggling due to EU protectionism (Caribbean sugar producers for example.)
It gets up my nose that the many differing economies and cultures of Europe are being homogenised and steam rollered by this large superstate. The UK is finacially in a mess at the moment for many at grass roots level (many cannot afford homes and debt is at record levels) and increasing taxes to pay for this eu project would suck.
I am all in favour of free trade but I'm not in favour of extending that to every aspect of our lives.