Yeah! I was part of that cult too. I never did see this mysterious "Siomon" though, there would always be a representative there who's name clearly was NOT Simon yet he spoke as if he was simon and everyone would do what he said just the same.
-Dan
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You call this a doomsday cult??
by bboyneko inoriginally posted at www.theonion.com:.
troubled?
of course i'm troubled.
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August km re media reports
by expatbrit innot sure if this has been highlighted on the board, but in the august km there's an interesting paragraph in the front page article "you are a theatrical spectacle":.
sometimes the media publish reports about the activities of jehovah's people.
while we appreciate good reports that are factual and fair in dealing with our work, we also expect bad reports to be spread by our detractors from time to time.
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Notice also they say 'true disciples of jesus christ...they dont mention Jehovah. You may also be seeing the beginning of using careful language to make them seem more like a mainstream religion. They are kissing up to ceaser like they did during world war II to nazi germany to save their own asses.
Depending on how strong the case Dateline shows, this technique won't work anymore, especially if you start seeing more and more elders being arrested. It's also possible that JW's who view the program who have been abused will start coming out in droves. This could pretty much cripple the JW, and signal the end for just another millenialist cult that will be a footnote in history.
A class-action lawsuit would be nice, with damages against the WTBTS in the billions. That would also cripple them.
-Dan
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Homind DNA Extracted!
by uncle_onion inhere is the link:.
... http://allafrica.com/stories/200107260275.html.
if the find at a local world heritage site is authenticated, it could be.
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Wow, one base pair? That's so close you could basically call this the missing link. I still don't understand how you can't look at a monkey and see how similair we are to them. We are a monkey's uncle :)
Looks like we are living at a time when extraterrestial life will be verified within our lifetime, and when the evolution of man from "lesser" forms of primates will also be verified. Ths still won't nessecarily disporve god but it will step on many a fanatics toe.
-Dan
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Are Elders Out of Control?
by metatron ini remember a time when the society exercised a significant.
degree of discipline over elders.
brothers were commonly.
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bboyneko
hey, who is buried in Grants tomb anyway?
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Precious Things
by individuals wife ini was feeling very low today as i realised it is now nearly six years since my wonderful father passed away.
he was only 42 and meant so much to me, i still think about him every day, and it still hurts so much that i cant just pick up the phone and talk to him, pop over to his house with cream cakes or just sit down by the sea and talk over my problems with him.. the jws are responsible for making my grief just that little bit worse, when i was studying with them they told me to get rid of anything in the house that would be displeasing to god, in my desire to do what was required of me i searched through the house, got rid of some bible literature and some other little odds and ends.... also my cruxifix.
i now regret that so much, it was one of the only things that my father ever gave to me just from him, not from my mother also.. how i regret that now, if only i could turn the clock back and stop myself, i was so eager to do what i was told, to make sure i was in a good standing with god.
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On a lighter side, we were having a chat in the live chat section the other night about the toys we were made to throw away. So I heard form people who got their toys thrown away and from Moms who had to throw away the toys..I miss my Jabba the hutt playset
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You call this a doomsday cult??
by bboyneko inoriginally posted at www.theonion.com:.
troubled?
of course i'm troubled.
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Originally posted at www.theonion.com:
You Call This A Doomsday Cult?
Troubled? Of course I'm troubled. But there's one thing in particular that's bothering me right now. Let me just get this out in the open. I'm very, very disappointed with this so-called doomsday cult I joined. There's so much wrong here, I barely know where to begin.
First of all, Simon, our so-called "leader," lacks the necessary charisma a man should have to lead a flock into self-annihilation. I'm not talking about a $20 haircut, either. Jim Jones, that man was nothing special to look at, but when he spoke, you believed mountains could move. When Simon speaks, there's none of that. No fire. No passion. Just a lateral lisp and a lot of "uhs" and "ums." He couldn't lead me to dinner if I was hungry.
That's another thing. Instead of a grueling schedule of meditate-work-meditate-work-work-eat-sleep, we have almost limitless free time. Sorry, Simon, but I don't think three hours a week picking up trash on our adopted stretch of highway is going to break my will. And stop handing out Snickers bars. I should be kept hungry of body but sated of spirit. Unless these things are laced with cyanide, I fail to see the point in constantly stuffing chocolate in our mouths.
And pray tell, Simon, just how are we going to have a dramatic standoff without a weapons stockpile? I've been doing some research, and do you know how many rifles the Branch Davidians had? Two hundred and twenty five. How many do we have? One. One goddamned unloaded .22 that you use to hunt squirrels. I'm sure when the BATF raids our compound, we'll be able to hold them off for at least three minutes with that thing. When we run out of ammo, we can always turn to that mound of Roman candles you picked up in Indiana.
As long as we're clearing the air here, there's the not-so-small matter of your failure to subjugate the children with ritual sexual abuse. Kids are the future of this cult, and we can't leave them to form opinions of their own. You have to break their spirit by violating them in horrific ways. If you're not going to do it, a lot of your followers are itching to give it a try. Just say the word, and we can start getting some order around here.
You know what else? A lot of people are starting to talk about your new wife, and I can't really disagree with them. Here's a news flash, Simon: a consenting 19-year-old does not a child bride make, even if she is 24 years younger than you. Age-of-consent laws are the laws of an unjust government, not the laws of our Skyfather. You're the conduit between the Skyfather and the people--just make up some shit about how He told you to take a 14-year-old bride. No one cares. Hell, we expect it.
And just what is our Skyfather, anyway? You've barely said a word about Him, much less made up any elaborate creation myth or Armageddon scenario. All you do is talk about The Beginning and The Great Path we're on. A path has to lead somewhere--otherwise, it's just a dirt road. Are we going to heaven? Paradise? Outer space? Is the Skyfather an alien? Are we his children? His experiment? Do we have the souls of immortals locked within us? You're really falling down on the job here.
Even our name sucks. Look at some of the greats: The Family. Heaven's Gate. Supreme Truth. Now, those are some cult names with pizazz. They're mysterious, sexy, hinting at knowledge beyond the realm of man. And you, O Great One, what do you go and name us? The Guiding Light. Christ. Didn't it ever dawn on you that Guiding Light is a friggin' soap opera? I'm amazed you didn't name us The Bold And The Beautiful. We're the laughing stock of the entire cult world. Even the Scientologists make fun of us.
Our living quarters don't exactly inspire confidence in your leadership, either. Our compound is not what I would call a forbidding, impenetrable barrier between Us and Them. Fortified? This picket fence is constantly getting knocked over by the neighborhood dogs. I'm no Noah Webster, but I'm sure that if you look up "compound" in the dictionary, you won't find a picture of a mobile home.
Come on, let's get this cult going! Shit, my family isn't the slightest bit worried about me. My "uniform" is off the rack and doesn't match anyone else's. Our sole sources of income are selling junk at the weekend flea market and continuing to hold down our day jobs at the Pepperidge Farm outlet store. It's a goddamn travesty.
I tell you, Simon, if things don't shape up around here soon, I'm going to have to start shopping around for another cult. Because this one just ain't cutting it.
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Why "God's Name" Doesn't Mean "J...
by metatron inwitnesses get indoctrinated with scriptures that refer.
to "the name of my father".
by means of these texts,.
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Or, YAHWEH was the god of war and of the Jews, and the christian version of god is completley different, a much more mystical zen-like god.
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Life on Mars, Again!
by metatron inover at yahoo news , it quotes a nasa scientist as.
saying that they misplaced data from the viking.
lander on mars twenty five ago.
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Yes it's based on the gas emmisions when water was added to the soil of Mars, certain gases given off would be proof of micro-organisms living in the soil. The scientists said he was 90% sure the gas emissions were from life. Alot of people are skeptical saying the gas emmisions can cam from other means as well.
Personally, I think we will find either fossils or life on Mars. Some people are so sure of it there is some sort of petition to stop any retrieval of Martian soil samples for fear of a Andromedea strain nightmare virus :)
-Dan
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Why Do They Bother?
by Stephanus inon another thread, i was struck with a thought.
someone mentioned how brainwashed the r&f were to accept the drivel pumped out of bethel and it suddenly dawned on me that the 'tower and the awake!
and all the other literature are irrelevant.
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Hey anyone hear the one about the burglar who, when the family of the house he is burglarizing comes home unexpectadly, hides under the childresn bed. Then the dub family read their kids my book of bible bull..i mean stories and then the burglar, after listening decides to turn himself in and become a JW. :)
-Dan
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D.A. vs. Slow Fade
by Black Man inwhich is better in your estimation?
hit the borg with a d.a.
letter or do the slow fade.
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Maybe I am wrong on this, but isn't the 'slow fade' pretty cowardly? I think that if you DA you are making a big statement, if all these thousands that had slow-faded DA'ed i think it would send a big strong message to the active JW's..it did in my congregation. I was a model teen JW who everyone said to be like. I answered at all the meetings, did good field service, attened all the meetings,etc. etc.
Then I leave. The elders are furious and we have many arguments, but in the end I made a strong stand and because of it someone left with me, realizing he wasnt alone.
WHat if I had just faded? The active JW's might just assume i became spiritually weak, and not care that much. But DA leave a strong, stinging statement that hey, this active loyal JW thinks there is something wrong with the JW's! As a result i received many secret contacts from active JW wondering what had made me leave, and I was able to plant some seeds of doubt.
I understand many do not want to lose contact with their family, but why mplay by their rules? Why allow the watchtower to continue to control you, they still hold that gun to your head if you fad. By DA youare no longer bound by their rules. Sure your relatives may not talk to you, but how much do you want to assosiate with relatives who are that shallow? Blood is not always thicker than water. Some non-blood family can be much more loving and supportive that blood family. I'v learned the hard way blood dosent always mean a damn thing.
By slow fading i think many many countless JW have simply dissapeared, and no active JW is really noticing. I know if I was active and an elder i always looked up to suddenly da'ed himself, id be awestruck and very very curious. Remember curiousity killed the cat. Basis of the original sin :)
But basically I just feel DA is a very effective attack and can lead to more JW's leaving and does the most good. You realize that if you slow fade you can still be counted for their world wide count of JW's? Although they arent supposed to count non active publishers im sure they do sometimes.
Just my 2ยข....
-Dan