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  My girlfriend has joined JWD

  by Lostreality in

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  dirt rocker .

  thats my girlfriend, she wanted to join jwd so i couldnt say no :-d .

  shes really shy, so im entroducing her.

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  Glenmore

  Hi Dirt Rocker, great that you're another Portland area (a)post(at)er. We must have a congo's worth now. Welcome and if you do get married there's at least 6 xjwULC ministers who could help you out, at least one for free. Glen
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  How many of us posters ULC "ministers"?

  by Glenmore in

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  i found out recently that both valis and avishai are fellow universal life church people.

  maybe we should form a tax-exempt corporation and legally-swindle money from the government like our alma mater (da borg) does?

  http://www.ulc.org/.

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  With Valis that's 6, 6 more and we're The Twelve Apostatles!

  I have doctorates in Divinity and Metaphysics and I have certificates saying I'm a Saint and a Freethinker. And that clergy badge, and a VHS tape (still in its wrapper). I got quite a bit for $147.
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  So then, here's a question...about "meditation"

  by onacruse in

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  recent threads have got me to thinking about this.. i've never "meditated," insofar as i've always understood the term.. i always avoided even trying to "meditate," (and still have a reluctance even to consider doing so) because the wts not-so-obliquely suggested that "meditation" was parmount to 'opening your mind to demons.

  ' even though i've totally trashed the wts mumbo-jumbo, i still find in my soul a reluctance to embark on such a journey.. kate gave me a different perspective last night.. so, your comments, and especially, your experiences?.

  craig.

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  O, it's from the rush of the assembly part (I mean wedding) being over. Sure you can come, bring Jon this time. Seriously let's come up with a date. August 28 on is okay. Gotta get my Mum Sept 17-27 'tho. Glen

  PS Calling all locals, beer and brats anyone?
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  How many of us posters ULC "ministers"?

  by Glenmore in

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  2. friends

  i found out recently that both valis and avishai are fellow universal life church people.

  maybe we should form a tax-exempt corporation and legally-swindle money from the government like our alma mater (da borg) does?

  http://www.ulc.org/.

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  Glenmore

  I found out recently that both Valis and Avishai are fellow Universal Life Church people. Are there any more of us? Maybe we should form a tax-exempt corporation and legally-swindle money from the government like our alma mater (da Borg) does?

  http://www.ulc.org/

  Valis is a (self-proclaimed) Dirty Vicar. I sign the wedding book Father Glen. Avishai is well Avishai I guess. I can see with a piece of property near the Brooklyn Bridge, lads!
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  I'm not sure why I do this ...

  by Glenmore in

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  after about 18 months "out" (2000) i got myself a minister's license from the universal life church and registered with the local county (clackamas) so i can perform weddings.

  originally it was because one of the gals at work was getting married and the fellow she had lined up to officiate backed out.

  i thought (at the time) it would be deliciously naughty to "belong" to another "religion" and use my jw training to give a talk - it's kind of like a demo at a service mtg.

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  Hey O, I miss them too (always liked J,J and J). Sadly I got into a bit of a bust-up with P, it was post-dub and altho' he's gone to our side, I had enough jw-bitchiness to allow a problem to fester. Mea culpa.

  Valis. What can I be Overbeer of?

  Glenmore Oatmeal Stout

  Silver Medal- World Beer Championships 1996

  http://www.macsbeer.com/brews_awards.html
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  So then, here's a question...about "meditation"

  by onacruse in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  recent threads have got me to thinking about this.. i've never "meditated," insofar as i've always understood the term.. i always avoided even trying to "meditate," (and still have a reluctance even to consider doing so) because the wts not-so-obliquely suggested that "meditation" was parmount to 'opening your mind to demons.

  ' even though i've totally trashed the wts mumbo-jumbo, i still find in my soul a reluctance to embark on such a journey.. kate gave me a different perspective last night.. so, your comments, and especially, your experiences?.

  craig.

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  Glenmore

  Hey Craig, I had a soul-therapist help me with my psychological problems from leaving the Collective in 1999. He was actually an Adventist deprogrammer. He had to retire, bad ticker, genetic as I recall. He was largely Jungian with heavy native American overtones. It scared me at first. His developing treatment he called "nature centered active imagination" I have some books related to it. The Way of the Shaman being one I reread. We should have a BBQ over here in Estacada before summer's out, you can look at them then and I can tell you more about it. I met my spirit guide and nope I am not joking. It was very helpful. But I couldn't handle some of it and I backed out. It was my first year "out", I was swaying in many directions and still had implants that reacted the jw way. I am better now so I think I could handle the trip again. Alternatively really really good weed and some reliable 'shrooms will do wonders. Glen
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  Since JWs Never Helped Anyone But Themselves, What Do You Do 4 People?

  by minimus in

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  we, as witnesses were taught to believe that our giving the "truth" to people was the most important gift we could give!

  forget about giving money to charities or helping any other group out----we needed to give them the "real life".

  do you find yourself giving back to the community or to others now that you're out?

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  http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/6/76735/1.ashx

  I spent my day doing this.
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  Elder occupations

  by Iforget in

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  my dad is an elder.

  he is one of the most level headed compassionte men you will ever meet.

  even though he never received a college education he was kind and understanding.

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  Glenmore

  Sorry to hear that, Iforget. I cringe as I can see your kangeroo court in my mind's eye.

  These are the ones I remember (over 17 years):

  House painter; warehouseman; building services - concrete, framing, carpets, tiles, homes; septic tank pumper; water hearter repair; engineer (of the "anointed"). I suppose that's the average blue collar occupation in rural Portland Oregon.
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  I'm not sure why I do this ...

  by Glenmore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after about 18 months "out" (2000) i got myself a minister's license from the universal life church and registered with the local county (clackamas) so i can perform weddings.

  originally it was because one of the gals at work was getting married and the fellow she had lined up to officiate backed out.

  i thought (at the time) it would be deliciously naughty to "belong" to another "religion" and use my jw training to give a talk - it's kind of like a demo at a service mtg.

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  Glenmore

  Hey guys, and thanks everso much for the good thoughts. My part went quite well - and I basically conclude that I must be addicted to the relief of something uncomfortable being over. Bikerchic got the closest figuring I must love pain of this kind - that's eerie Kate, you are right but I don't know why, I have several Mum-stories that would back it up tho'.

  Anyway, the parents of the groom are like the Sommer family. You know them, great people but as frustrating as hell when it comes to time management, with everything. The sort you invite an hour before everyone else. The service started 75 mins late. The guests were asked to be seated on a 85 degree muggy day about 30 minutes earlier than required, outside in rural Estacada OR. I had a mike in my hand about that time. So I warmed the audience up a bit - the fact that the kegerator had Coors draft helped too, it was nicely liberal. I don't really have to say anything, just the sound of my voice was strange enough to do the trick. Mom Sommer was late.

  It was a pretty quick ceremony, as intended. I had 3 opportunities (aka screwups) to test everyone's sense of humor, it went okay. I got a lot of thanks by the bride, groom and both families that was genuine enough to make me fell like I will do it again if asked. Now that to me is puzzling. I can go several ways on this as to the real reason I do this, and maybe that's it, it's a medley of reasons, like life itself.

  1. In all marriages (6) I have performed since 2000 there have been just one jw, a very fine local jazz musician named Thera who worked with the bride. We barely talked, I didn't know him, he played the trumpet, excellent. So one point could be that I am doing things for the gratitude of "worldly people". And it feels good. Never had that as a dub, well maybe a handful of times and I tried really really hard.

  2. I am an only-child needing attention and getting it. It pains me as I am desparately shy. Because I have slogged through a lot of stuff in my 50 years, not the least being 5500 miles from Chelmsford, Essex UK (aka home), I only know "being exposed" as a method for attention (aka self image/worth)

  3. I can't say no to helping anybody. Actually I had never met the couple nor the parents before, despite the fact that my daughter has dated another son for a couple of years. My daughter asked me if I would marry them as one father (cancer) and one grandmother (cancer) were dying (the couple has had a house together for five years, so it was for their family as much as anything) . So I said yes. And then found out it was bigger and bolder (and later) than I had been told.

  I don't mean anything by this, but retail at my hourly rate (www.greenstead.com) that was about $1500 of my billable time over several weeks. So it's a nice gift to someone I didn't know and I do feel good about that.

  As I said, thanks for your kind thoughts (above) and through quantum physics they must have reached me as it went way better for my role today than I expected.

  Father Glen
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  I'm not sure why I do this ...

  by Glenmore in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  after about 18 months "out" (2000) i got myself a minister's license from the universal life church and registered with the local county (clackamas) so i can perform weddings.

  originally it was because one of the gals at work was getting married and the fellow she had lined up to officiate backed out.

  i thought (at the time) it would be deliciously naughty to "belong" to another "religion" and use my jw training to give a talk - it's kind of like a demo at a service mtg.

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  Glenmore

  Thanks for the kind thoughts. Yes, I was nervous at all the weddings I officiated. And (sorry about this) I used to get the runs before meeting and assembly parts, yet I still volunteered. I'm sure there's something in my psyche that makes me do this, I can't believe it's an adrenaline rush, I feel sick. And I used to say that the difference between a wedding and a funeral is "one" so it's not like I actually love weddings.

  Time to get ready ...........