Posts by myelaine

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In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........

by holly in

jw
friends

and then the end will come.. something like that!!.

so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.

holly

myelaine

Jeanniebeanz,

You said: 1. The witness of the good news of Christ?s Sacrifice is being preached all over the world by many different types of Christians

I say: Amen

love michelle

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Elders Apptd By Holy Spirit?

by Sunspot in

here you go, afin and other wts supporters;

1) why does the wts insist on claiming that elders are appointed under holy spirit, when it's been proven that they have been guilty of so-called unchristian behaviors?

2) can you prove that they are appointed by holy spirit?.

myelaine

Elders Apptd By Holy Spirit? NO, not if you're talking J.W. elders, imo.

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In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........

by holly in

jw
friends

and then the end will come.. something like that!!.

so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.

holly

the fact that the crowd in verse 6 has the voice "as many waters and heavy thunders" would suggest to me "the crowd" has supernatural ability to speak to the small and great on earth as God had commissioned the 144 000. Also in verse 11 John is seeing heaven open AGAIN which might suggest that from verse 1 to verse 11 he LOOKED toward something else, namely earth. Also, RIGHT after this FINAL witness of the crowd the Lord comes and it is pretty much THE END for unbelievers.

michelle

p.s. re: the marriage supper, you are right the crowd IS just announcing that the marriage has arrived or is a done deal, not that they had arrived on earth for the supper, but who are the crowd addressing? everyone in heaven is aware of this fact, people on earth wouldn't be aware of this.

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In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........

by holly in

jw
friends

and then the end will come.. something like that!!.

so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.

holly

myelaine

leolaia,

you said: myelaine...This "great crowd" in Revelation 19:6-8 is already in "heaven," see v. 1.

With all respect to you, I have to disagree.

1. in verse 6 we hear a voice issuing from heaven saying BE praising God all you his slaves the small and the great. This indicates to me that perhaps these great and small hadn't been praising God before. All those in heaven would have been and ARE

2. in verse 3 it was said that the crowd in heaven said FOR A SECOND TIME.....it does not say that the great crowd in verse 6 is specifically in heaven or that the crowd in heaven said FOR THE THIRD TIME.....

3. this great crowd says the marriage of the Lamb has ARRIVED......this supper is not in heaven but on earth. And the Lamb and His bride had arrived on earth. This crowd is witnessing this arrival.

4. God had begun to rule as king.......He already ruled in heaven....these witnesses are now proclaiming his rule on earth, let US rejoice and be overjoyed....

5. If this crowd in vs.6 is the same as that in vs. 1 what would be the point of "identifying" them again , so to speak, as a sound of many.....

michelle

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In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........

by holly in

jw
friends

and then the end will come.. something like that!!.

so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.

holly

myelaine

Would anyone that subscribes to one of these lines (or another one) want to add some scriptures to beef up their position?

Dave...re MY earlier post....

Rev. 19:6-8

And I heard what was as a voice of a great crowd and as a sound of many waters and as a sound of heavy thunders. They said:"Praise Jah, You people, because Jehovah our God, the Almighty, has begun to rule as a king. Let us rejoice and be overjoyed, and let us give Him glory, because the marriage supper of the Lamb has arrived and His bride has prepared herself. yes it has ben granted to her .....

This seems to be people on earth calling people on earth to the marriage supper. these people do not seem to include themselves in the bride, and furthermore the bride, arrayed as it is, is not seen coming to earth until Rev. 19:11-14. these people are not "lost" nor would it make sense that they would be calling the bride to the supper.

Unless God brings back to earth ALL the supposed 144 000 J.W.s to preach at this time (which has no scriptural support) then this could very well be newly converted Israelites, all 144 000 of them.

michelle

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Does the WTS's past matter?

by M.J. in

i know, i'd jump into this topic by saying, "heck yeah.

they're the ones saying they've been appointed by god based on what they were doing back around 1914-1919.

" but i'm trying to help someone out who has reached a roadblock with his wife.

myelaine

Jehovah?s Witnesses believe that there is a universal court case going on to settle the issue of God?s right to rule the earth. The issue is one of universal sovereignty. They claim to be God?s witnesses in the court case, appointed by him, to put forward his side of the debate.

If this were a case held even in an imperfect human court, how many times could such witnesses make false statements and claims before their honesty was called into question

not only this but once found to be a false "witness" they wouldn't be allowed to be in a JURY PANEL, deciding who's right or wrong either.

michelle

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In the last days there will be a witness to all the inhabited earth........

by holly in

jw
friends

and then the end will come.. something like that!!.

so, for those who believe the bible, who are these people and what scripture would back that?.

holly

myelaine

JustTickledPink,

God said that He would not destroy the earth with a FLOOD again.

The 144 000 Israelites that are marked on their foreheads by God to witness to the truth of Jesus Christ. This witness will be given to the whole earth. And then the end will come. These Jews will sing a new song and they will be miraculously preserved by Christ through the trib. period.

These are called the first fruits to God and the Lamb. At the beginning of every harvest the people presented a token amount of the first and best fruits of the field as an offering to the Lord. This practice is used here to picture the conversion of the 144 000 Jewish witnesses. Like a corn kernel planted in the ground (the Lord) more than one kernel will spring forth from the ground (144 000). in this way an entire bundle of firstfruits can be waved in front of God. This picture would lead me to believe that these Israelites would be the first real "converts" during the trib.

michelle

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On a scale from 1 to 10, please rate my looks!!!!

by cindykp in

jw
friends

please dont be shy, no one has touched this subject yet!

just got home from the beauty salon!!

!

myelaine

you're beautiful, I see you take after your mother! 8

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Are there any 'true' churches ?

by Qcmbr in

just a question because of course we all either believed we were in the 'truth', are still in the 'truth' have left and found the 'truth', there is no 'truth' or that the only truth is found in the trailer park with a bottle of bud and a bunch of 'pozzies:)

myelaine

Dearest Craig,

My heart breaks that * I * can't show you.

You said " How would I know if they(your prayers) were being heard?

My question would be how long ago did you stop believing your prayers weren't being heard?

Because it all comes down to faith. Faith in the unseen! (2 Cor 4:18)

To those who have true faith in God(He decides) the reward through the H.S. is sanctifying, faith building, reassurance. If, in fact, you put the Kingdom of God first. And by that I mean walk like you are walking in God's Kingdom.(Joy, love, fellowship with your brother. [your spiritual brother is not every Tom, Dick and Harry] but you don't know right away, and it doesn't matter anyway because you are to love your enemies, today) We don't want to have contrary thoughts. There is such a thing as a Bible traiined conscious. The H.S. speaks to my conscious daily. It is a blessing. i see everything God has given me, "DUST". I am brought to thinking(meditating) about many things including various personal variances between my life and the life of Christ, and my life in the Kingdom of God. The fact is I am in a relationship with my heavenly Father. He knows everything about me, he knows what I am thinking, he knows what I am going to say. Why not work with that, be honest with God and with my own Bible trained conscience.(which, I am convinced is the H.S. at work)

This Bible trained conscience helps God answer my questions, to God. my prayers are not answered immediately but my questions are answered. If I listen. there is a time to keep quiet and a time to speak Ecc.3:8 The Spirit is a still , quiet spirit. It leads( you watch) It does not push. It's hard to listen to listen to a quiet voice in this day and age in particular and hard to hear discipling in general. It is against my ego, my will. But this "urgeing" of the H.S. to be in union with the Spirit or way of Jesus Christ, if carried through with, TODAY, is sanctifying. My reward is in my spirit, which effects or carries through to my life. Believe me 95% of my reward is "unseen".....but that it obviously comes out of me in my reaction to life as it comes my way.

What would Jesus do?

he would listen, and then only speak the same truth the H.S. imparts and has purposefully withheld within His written word and my heart. To the children of God everywhere. To keep you in the flock, which is the church of God "unseen", but united by exacting ideals. Love God with all thy heart and they soul and thy body. And love thy neighbour as thy love thyself.

Having said this, i have not brought my life into complete accord with the life of Jesus and/or God's Kingdom. But I am learning why I should and How I can, "With Help". I am learning daily.

I know I am not at an advantage. I am a homemaker. I have things to do plus some stuff! but to be honest I spend a lot of my time in the Bible and asking questions. I then LOOK for answers.

Craig, I sense that you have for lack of better words, physical burden on your person, whether it is natural or spiritual makes no difference, I sense this... right or wrong? I hope/wish I could touch people and make them better, is that any different than anyone else? God bless the Pope, in Jesus name, Amen.

I read and believe, ask and believe and look and believe. I am not at an advantage, because God has asked everyone to believe....

And the Spirit and the bride keep saying "Come!" And let anyone hearing say "Come!" And let anyone thirsting come; let anyone that wishes take life's water free. Rev. 22:17

michelle

p.s. I am at a disadvantage because I really don't understand God's entire audience. I honestly don't want to know what makes a psycho-path "tick" I pray he would be in God's hands.....somehow....????. It is not for me to know, or I might break down and cry. I can only see what I LOOK for in the "natural" Kingdom of God.. I LOOK for that which is within the spiritual Kingdom of God. I find it. Which brings to my mind your physical burden. According to my sense, which,.... may not be off, you are burdened aren't you?....Like the Woman, Israel, we , the Bride, must wait until we are brought into the promised land until ALL that ails us is brought into submission by the power of God.

love michelle

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Are there any 'true' churches ?

by Qcmbr in

just a question because of course we all either believed we were in the 'truth', are still in the 'truth' have left and found the 'truth', there is no 'truth' or that the only truth is found in the trailer park with a bottle of bud and a bunch of 'pozzies:)

myelaine

onacruse,

you are right I have no idea how much energy you have put into developing a relationship with God or His Son, and I would not minimized any effort on your part if I did know. I'm sorry that you feel that your prayers have not been heard or answered to your satisfaction. Having said that I must also say that I have never found my relationship with God through Jesus Christ to be a "magic pill" and sometimes it has taken years to see that God had, in His way, answered my prayer. upon seeing this I was brought emense satisfaction. but satisfaction different than that of having known that God "jumped" to answer my prayer. Which would be only fulfilling to my ego in most ways

By God's Word I mean the Bible (Particularily the N.T.) to start with. These words of God do in all ways, lead to, The Word(God's Son).

michelle