i've not been too good at creating topics thus far, but for my 1000th post (in case you wouldn't notice .
we often oppose reason (ratio) and belief, as if those were mutually exclusive.
reason always works from presuppositions.
The delusion that we have these mystical make-believe alternatives to real life is the lie. Once you recognize that no belief system can grant you escape from natural death or give you everlasting life in Paradise---you can free yourself from the false choices leading to such an embrace.
Terry,
You seem positive that there is no everlasting life in paradise, how did you rationalize this to yourself? Was it through emotion(fear), or reality?What is your reason for disbelief?
michelle
rev.
verse 18 .
and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.
Dear Little Toe,
Hi, I do appreciate all the info that I am getting, but right now I am not in the position to look into all of it. My purpose in starting this tread was actually not so much to discuss my interpretation of this particular scripture, but to put it out there for everyone to have another look at. Most people on this forum probibly have never looked at it with current events in mind.
God really and truly put this on my heart recently LT, and I need to get this info out. I know it may sound like I am "some kind of nut case", but this IS different than the WT "stuff". I am not telling you," believe something outrageous", because I want to expound on my theories. If you look at my message in context it is very relevent to you and your safety. I am not telling you to, "do this and be saved" like the WT and their doctrines. I telling you, "God says do this and be saved", like it says to do in the last days. I have not made up any "facts" by twisting scripture or pulling dates out of the Word. The facts pretaining to the WBTS were "facts" long before I was born and I had nothing to do with their implementation. They are there and none can change them. The Word is there, written before I was born, none can change them. Can you see the difference? One MAJOR difference between our message is this, I am saying, to paraphrase, "Get out of her My people, save yourselves, Glorify God." The WBTS says, to paraphrase, "Get in this ark with us, you may be saved?, sell our message, to glorify God"
Can you see the difference?
I have put the facts re: WBTS in front of you and I have put this scripture in front of you not so you will believe me(which is actually my hope) but so you will "see for yourself if Gods word is truth", You have the Word, you have the facts. You don't have to buy anything from me. Proverbs 23:23 Buy truth itself and do not sell it-wisdom and discipline and understanding.
love michelle
what is morality?
how is it different from ethics?
do we just make it all up to suit our fancy?
who among us is not part of a collective, who does not buy in to something?
Can I answer this one? GOD!
michelle
what is morality?
how is it different from ethics?
do we just make it all up to suit our fancy?
Logic failed and emotion triumphed in that day.
Faith in God failed and FEAR triumphed in that day.
rev.
verse 18 .
and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.
I love you too.
michelle
[ proverbs 6 .
warnings against folly
12 a scoundrel and villain, .
"My feeling is that if there's a god, he made us agnostic and ambivalent and likes us that way, so we don't need to be saved. I'm sure he'd be bored to death if he only had true believers"
What a disheartening thing to hear someone say.
love michelle
what is morality?
how is it different from ethics?
do we just make it all up to suit our fancy?
"Morality, is a socially imposed code of conduct that benefits Society at the cost of the individual."????????? Don't most people want to be a benefit to society??????
what is morality?
how is it different from ethics?
do we just make it all up to suit our fancy?
Dear Terry,
Are you trying to say that, our emotional REACTION to a CHOICE determines the choices we make, depentant upon whether those choices are in line with our "morality", in relation to our end GOAL? Which would be, in the case of a mentally healthy able-bodied man, a long and graceful, purpose-led life?
michelle
p.s. and why are you saying that?
what is morality?
how is it different from ethics?
do we just make it all up to suit our fancy?
Terry,
If the giver is the one judged, wouldn't it be in the best interests of the giver to give. All people deserve mercy, because we don't know about their "lives". At some point in time it does become hard to pity people that are obviously "blind" to their "consequences". At that time some might become the teacher as well as the giver.
michelle
this is where the "do unto others " part of the equation comes in
rev.
verse 18 .
and the woman whom you saw means the great city that has a kingdom over the kings of the earth.
Thank you guest 77,
last night I was thinking that I would like to have a look at it andd was hoping I could find some info, thanx again.
michelle
p.s.
This morning I was thinking, if it is 2004 and it is, and if the entity that has become WBTS was started 1879, which it was, isn't the difference 125 years?
does any one really know how long .........a time..................times......................and half a time is..............?
And I heard another voice out of heaven say:"Get out of her My people, if you do not want to share with her in her sins, and if you don't want to share with her in her plagues. For her sins have massed together clear up tp heaven, and God has called her acts of injustice to mind.
Be glad over her, O heavens, also you holy ones and you apostles and you prophets, because God has judicially exacted punishment for YOU from her!
