Posts by BeautifulGarbage

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How Time Flies!

by BeautifulGarbage in

i have been posting on this forum for a year now.

"only" 2000" were registered when i came here back in july 2001 after lurking for a few months.

i was using another name at that time.

BeautifulGarbage

Nikita,

Andee, I just wanted to say I enjoyed finding out a little more about you-although I am sorry for the experiences you went through to get here!

Thanks. I know that many people here have come through so much worse. Their determination and spirit inspire me.

OutoftheOrg,

Life when normal or close to it is still difficult and one does not need the craziness of the wbts added to the mix of our lives.

Absolutely! Except for my childhood, and shunning by relatives after 1981, the WTS had relatively little influence in my life. There were somethings. For instance, we began to "celebrate" xmas when I was 10. That first one consisted for a few gifts stuff in brown paper bags. Still, I was overjoyed. Throughout the years, though, my Dad would never allow us to get a Xmas tree. He would rationalize that we "just exchanging" gifts and "just" happen to be doing it on the day that everyone else does. He still, for the most part, believed in the WTS doctrines.

Even with absence of the WTS, our family life was still insane. Worldly people even have crap! I am the eldest of three children. And ALL of us have been hospitalized for depression, drugs and alcohol use (not me, I'm a teetotaler), eating disorders. My youngest brother struggles with mental illness. I know the most of it is a result of our crazy upbringing.

Here is to many more years of happiness and contentment for you and yours.

What a lovely thing to write! Thank you!

Puffs,

I am so glad for all the posters here and the information they have shared. Their research and their experiences have allowed me to take a stand.

I have followed the saga with your Mom. It must be frustrating. My Mom always hated being a JW. She went along to keep my Dad happy. My grandmother brought the family in when she was 5. Even though my JW Grandmother was a completely indoctrinated zealot, she NEVER shunned any of her children. Even when my Aunt, her daughter was DF'd. That is why I sometimes vacillate between anger at the Org, and anger at my relatives. Some shun and some don't. So, some make the choice. I understand better, now, why they make that choice.

Good for you and your stand. I have yet to see any of the JW relatives in person. Most contact has been by email. I have told myself that when the times comes when I see some of them face to face, I will not bring the subject of the Org up. But, if they do, the gloves come off.

Thanks for the kind words.

Chester,

She is not into computers so she does not come here and read on her own but she does listen when I read the stories and accounts that are posted here and she reads everything that I print out for her.

I have an Aunt that is like your wife. It was her DFing was the event that eventually split my extended family. This poor woman carried so much sadness and guilt. Because of writings found here and at Freeminds, that were printed off for her to read, she has made a wonderful transformation. She now understand that it was the WTS that destroyed her family, NOT HER.

Best wishes to you and your wife!

Andee

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What pisses you off about elders wives?

by bay64me in

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the elders wife that really pisses me off, is the one that would boastfully announce that jehovah had provided her husband with a part-time teaching job, emphasising that his employment was "on the line" each year....but thanks to jehovah,(in other words) we are so fucking loyal and do many hours in field service and things that nobody could possibly know about ( but i'm letting you know indirectly) so my husband has an income to assist us in our pioneer service!

what pisses you off about elders wives?

BeautifulGarbage

Her husband used to take thier kid in the back room and bounce him off the walls, once hitting his head so hard that the kid fell, almost knocked out.

Not only is she and her husband a creep, so are all of those that sat in the KH and listened to that happening and DID NOTHING!

SHAME ON THEM!

Andee

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DO you REALLY think this is THE END OF JW's?

by minimus in

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everytime a new revelation comes to the board, some suggest that this is the big one.

whether it be the blood issue, the u n debacle, the silentlambs saga, some cryptic comment about jw's and their involvement with churches, it seems like nothing effects the jehovah's witnesses rank and file.

personally.

BeautifulGarbage

Hillary,

Can you clarify something for me?

13 million attended that year's assemblies? Were there still an estimated 6 million JW's worldwide?

If so, more non-jws attended assemblies than jws?

Andee

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non-jws can be nice too

by jack2 in

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last night on abc tv's "primetime" a story was aired about the people of gander, new foundland, who extented a great degree of hospitality toward total strangers as planes were diverted to nearby airport in the wake of the attacks on the world trade centers on 9/11.. food was prepared and served.

people opened their homes to the passengers.

some passengers have even returned to gander to bond once again with the people who showed them such kindness.

BeautifulGarbage

I saw that story last night, too. Very heart warming to say the least.

Unfortunately, for the most part, legitimate good news doesn't get the ratings. So, we are fed a steady diet of the bad stuff. This in turn, this feeds JW's to share their version of "good news" and believe that the world is in a constant state of moral decline.

There is a section in our local paper that once a week, where people share good things that have happened, or done for them. I always look forward to reading it.

Andee

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Gunman Kidnaps 2 Teenage Girls in S. Calif.

by Reborn2002 in

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BeautifulGarbage

Oh, they're not so unpopular, Lisa.

Their age, and time out, struck me as extremely irresponsible

School night? Not sure about that. Kids here are out for the summer. Not sure if they have year round school in Lancaster, though.

I saw a press conference with one of the Dads. He remarked that he was now going to somehow install a "lowjack" on this daughter so he would know where she is.

One of the boys commented that he didn't even think the guy's gun had bullets in it. Yet, he still allowed himself to be tied up.

In the picture on the news, the guy looks hispanic. But, so does my Dad. He gets comments all the time and he's FULL-BLOODED Irish.

Andee

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How Time Flies!

by BeautifulGarbage in

i have been posting on this forum for a year now.

"only" 2000" were registered when i came here back in july 2001 after lurking for a few months.

i was using another name at that time.

BeautifulGarbage

I have been posting on this forum for a year now. "Only" 2000" were registered when I came here back in July 2001 after lurking for a few months. I was using another name at that time.

My first post was on the infamous "Noah's Ark" thread. I still marvel when I think about RedHorsewoman's figures about feed, room, and ummm...dung (not to be confused with "beetle") removal to completely debunk the possibility of such an event actually occurring.

A few people know about "my story." I never sat down and shared the whole thing. It's just too complicated. What brought me here, however, was a few of my JW relatives finding me after decades of shunning. *I* wasn't personally shunned, my Mother was and I was ignored as part of the package. The 1981 thing. That is another long story that I have shared in bits and pieces on this forum. My family "left" when I was 10. Things should have been great, but because my Father was a heavy drinking alcoholic, with lunatic tendencies, my life, and that of my siblings, were lived constantly on the edge.

I've shared a few those experiences here.

Suffice to say that if I lined up all those experiences, shared and unshared, in a row, I should be in a padded cell, put away, never to be heard from again. Yet, I'm not. I'm a happily married housewife with two kids. Life ain't always grand, but I like to think I have been able to piece together something worthwhile and meaningful.

My Father is currently a JW after many years of being active and then inactive. Right now, as far as I know, he is active. I have not spoken to him in over a year for non-jw reasons. I cannot blame the WTS for the destruction of my immediate family. However, my extended family is another story. Many of those I was close to growing up.

I remember when I realized my family could now be "normal." Or rather, not be JW's. I felt such a relief. I never wanted to talk anything Watchtower again. I didn't have to live with my impending death "any time now" because of my secret desire to attend a schoolmates birthday party, or because I gratefully accepted those tiny cards kids exchange at school on Valentine's Day. The stress between my Father's maniacal temperament and my "death wishes" actually took a toll on my physical health.

So when we left, I bolted. I never spoke of my families affiliation with the WTS with other kids. Fitting in is difficult enough without displaying the JW tattoo on my gums. I ran far away and my WTS memories were safely locked away, hopefully to be forever forgotten. For the most part, they were.

So, I fast forward to my JW relatives finding "us." For me, the WTS was another oddball religion with strange beliefs. Yet, they were harmless. I soon found out otherwise. I found site after site with sad stories of destruction. I couldn't stop reading. The feelings of shock and anger washed over me. Through Freeminds I found this Discussion Board. So many that I could relate to. They spoke my unique dialect.

So, it's been a year. I have had exchanges with so many great people. A few not so great, but that is life! The personality board has changed somewhat as more newbies register and some "oldies" fade. Though, I find the core is still the same. The support, the debates, and the wars (not many of those these days, thank goodness!).

I know I have jumped around with this. I hope it makes sense.

Thanks to Simon, and his lovely wife, for all their hard work, and money, they put into this place. I like hanging out here.

Andee

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Theocratic War Strategy at my house | Part 2

by freeman in

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some of you have seen my previous postings on this ongoing battle i am having for the heart and soul of my loved ones, a battle now focused on my 13-yearold.

here is part two.

* see theocratic war strategy at my house link below .

BeautifulGarbage

I know it can be very difficult to share such personal information with strangers. So many families are in your situation. Thank you for doing so.

I don't like seeing any family broken up, unless it's in the best interest of the children.

I hope your wife considers your letter carefully.

((((((((((Freeman))))))))))))

Andee

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HGTV's Gary Alan Is A Laidback JW

by ErieGuy in

http://orlandosentinel.com/features/lifestyle/orl-livbhouse01080102aug01.story .

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http://www.garyalan.com/index.html

BeautifulGarbage

Gary isn't as talkative as his wife, but he's not exactly a wallflower. One night he got into a long discussion with a man on the beach about the troubles of the world, and whether the end could be coming. Theological discussions are not uncommon on the ocean, and Mary and Gary are both members of the Jehovah's Witness faith, which teaches that the end may be near and that it is time to prepare.

But right now, Gary doesn't look so interested in the idea.

"Man has been predicting the end of the world since the beginning of time," he says.

Mary understands. Gary is enjoying his margarita.

I know, personally, that JW talk about the end of the world can really ruin a good margarita. Probably not going to be many bartenders in The New System.

Well, at least Mary understands that.

Andee

Edited by - BeautifulGarbage on 2 August 2002 11:39:24

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August 2nd

by Xandria in

another anniversary is going to be marked on that date.

wow cannot believe 13 years have passed since i eloped to las vegas .. my goodness it feels just like yesterday.

where did all those years go to ?.

BeautifulGarbage

I got married 15 years ago(May 17) in Vegas, too. I didn't elope. Actually, I had quite a nice little wedding and reception. Had the white dress and tux. Not tacky at all. Family and friends came along.

Interesting little factoid. Just about everyone that I know that had a fancy, VERY expensive wedding, is now divorced.

Happy Anniversary!

Andee

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Ok, I'm Drunk and Angry

by ChakkaConned in

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that's about it...

BeautifulGarbage

ChakkaConned,

I think you have the coolest username on the whole board

I hope your head doesn't hurt in the morning.

Andee