The Vatican is also offering training and courses on exorcisms. At least they're including lectures and materials from psychologists. But their mentality that has everything intertwining with cosmic forces, is still at its core, and that frame of mind lends itself well to secret societies.
Midget-Sasquatch
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"Pope was investigating Knights Templar before his election"
by sf injust saw this and wanted to post it for any whom may find it of interest:.
http://theinsider.org/news/article.asp?id=1149.
*** the new pope, benedict xvi, was actively investigating secret societies including the knights templar and the illuminati, it was revealed yesterday.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Well, its more entertaining than Streiber's Visitors and its not a bad spin on the ancient astronaut myth. But beyond that, its just bunk that sells books.
I must admit though that I've read some of his tuff because painting Jehovah as a leader of the alien Annunaki enslaving people had a certain appeal born out by experience in another group supposedly run by him.
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Evolution or creation.....
by searching4? ini know what i was taught from the witnesses in the book evolution or creation,but is this an accurate portrayal of what evolutionists believe?
is it really that black or white?
evolution, meaning that god didn't have a plan, things just happened, or creation,god created adam, the first man?
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Midget-Sasquatch
The problem with this is that domestic breeding involves primarily the recombination and loss of already existing genetic information, whereas evolution (in the molecules-to-man sense) would have also required an opposite process
Well consider the anti-freeze protein in some fish and its likely evolution. There's evidence pointing to that novel function being derived from a new combination of "existing genetic information" as well as non-coding DNA. So we're talking about creation (heh) of new genetic material.
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Adam 4000 BC or 5500 BC?
by greendawn inthe wts always propagates the idea that adam was created around 4000 bc and thus the world is 6000 years old and based on this they had set up the 1975 armageddon fiasco where many dubs got ripped off.
what they never say is that this dating is based on the hebrew masoretic text, there is however an older version of the old testament "the greek translation of the seventy" which for all we know may be the correct one and which makes mankind 7500 years old with adam created around 5500 bc.
not only this agrees better agrees with archaeological discoveries but it was also used by luke to write jesus's genealogy in his gospel.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Yeah the genealogies in Genesis 5 and 11 differ between the Massoretic, the Septuagint and the Samaritan Pentateuch. In some spots, the Sam will agree with the LXX, and in others with the MT. IIRC, a nun once told us that the genealogies in the LXX may have been altered to better mesh with an Egyptian chronology at the time.
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Midget-Sasquatch
I loved watching FireFly on FOX and even caught the unaired episodes on DVD. But just the other day some bleep spoiled a part of it by saying that _________ was _________. What?!?!
I haven't seen the movie yet though, so I hope he was just pulling my leg.
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Is the Bible both true and false?
by Narkissos inor, neither true nor false?.
*shamelessly plagiarising undisfellowshipped's threads for not being able to respond unilaterally to any of them as he seems to wish.*.
first remark: the bible is a (fortuitous or providential) collection of texts with different perspectives on most issues; so you can bet that about any sentence starting with "the bible teaches / says etc.
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Midget-Sasquatch
# 2: sometimes true, most often false: a lot of short stories reflect traditions which may have some historical truth behind, although it is hardly recognisable; the great narratives (e.g. Samuel-Kings, Chronicles, Acts) on the other hand generally reflect a deliberate distortion of facts for the sake of a politico-theological agenda.
I didn`t know that. Do you have any examples?Hi Hellrider Take the books of Chronicles for example. They were written many years after the return from
Babylon and the rebuilding of the Temple with an apparent aim to legitimize the theocracy of the time (Persians placed Zerubbabel as governor......and Joshua was the chosen high priest) That Chronicles stresses the theocracy is seen by the massive emphasis it places on the genealogies of Judah and Levi. (100 verses to Judah alone : more than all the other tribes combined). It shows a blood connection for Zerubbabel and Joshua with the divinely instituted lines from the past. Also in
retelling the "history" of the kings of Judah, several of the unfavourable details
found in the books of Samuel and Kings are changed/excluded. Jehoshaphat removed the
all the high places according to the Chronicler, but not according to Kings. And I'm sure
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Divided Household
by pratt1 ini grew up in a "divided household" and i was wondering how many of you had similar experiences to mine.. 1. i was always viewed as fatherless child as a kid.
i wasn't, i had a very involved father, however he was an unbeliever.. 2. i always felt the my decisions in life ultimately meant that i was chosing one parent over the other.
going to college i chose dad over mom.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Compared to most of you, my situation was reversed. Pop was a dub since I was about 4-5, and mom a catholic till about my mid-twenties (then she converted too). I was an outsider everywhere (at the KH, at the RC school). I think it was the key factor that fostered my agnosticism.
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Did you read ..........THAT........book...............
by vitty in.
.............. coc, of course.
when you were still in the org, or when you had already left.. i read it when i was still in and it had a profound effect on me.. lets take a poll .
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Midget-Sasquatch
Now, I already knew the WTS was mistaken about alot of stuff because of other books I had read and from some of the Catholic schooling I received. But I had always pegged the GB as sincere, just deluded and ignorant. So after nearly 2 decades of having no real faith, I figured the problem was with me and I tried to change. Putting aside all their mistakes and putting my own private views on alot of them, I took the plunge to see if I could spark something.
A few months after I got baptized, I read CoC and wished I had done it sooner. The Malawi-Mexico double standard was vile and really made me ill. I'm ashamed to reveal to those who know all of this info, that I'm still officially a member.
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Results of DA letter...(I need help!!)
by Lilycurly indear elders... .
i'm writting this letter to inform you about my decision to da myself as i do not want to be known as a jw anymore.
i have tought about this for a long time and made sincere and deep researches, in fact, i decided to examine both side of the coin without any restrictions and i quickly understood why the watchtower society so strongly dissaproves those investigations.
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Midget-Sasquatch
Hope this page is a good starting point for you.
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Pepsi or coke?
by Evanescence in.
which do you like better pepsi or coke?.
evanescence *wish there were voting polls on this forum
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Midget-Sasquatch
Pepsi slightly over Coke.
But they're both watered down versions of what a real cola should be like anyway. Number One is JOLT Cola (Twice the sugar and twice the caffeine).