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  My artwork has been published!

  by coffee_black in

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  i haven't posted in ages... life has been really busy and happy... two of my pieces of art were chosen for the 2005 calendar for annabelle's collection.

  my months are november and december... december being chosen for the cover.

  i am really excited!

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  evergreen

  Just seen your work and am very impressed ! well done and congradulations.
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  What Are "Sins" That Are Unique To A Jehovah's Witness???

  by minimus in

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  here's one to start the ball rolling.

  if you are not feeling well, have a headache, a backache, whatever but you would go to work but didn't go to a meeting or in "field service"---then you "sinned" against jehovah.....any others?

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  evergreen

  I will never forget what the P.O from my old congregation in london once said.He said that a Brother can be disfellowshipped for even simply having a woman as a friend ie if he was going to her flat/house or visa versa even if the relationship is strictly platonic.

  I remember it distinctly because there was a woman who had just come along for the first time to a meeting and the po comes out with that.All i remember thinking, was ,no you shouldnt have said that ,that didnt sound right etc.I never saw the newly interested woman again!!!!
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  Getting fed up with fading

  by Pole in

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  ok, so here is my story in put a nutshell: .

  1. i first had "nagging doubts" about the borg some three years ago (after 6 years of being a faithful witness).

  2. i stopped avoiding "apostate" internet sites some 1.5 years ago, which really helped me confirm my doubts.

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  evergreen

  I was away from the meetings for about 2 years as i felt i was to hypocritical by going out on the town with my brother a bit to often and having more than a tipple.I was also having marital problems which was the main reason for my lack of spirituality.

  It was in this time i discovered this site and others and read crisis of conscience which i would never have done if i had been at the meetings and still had my fire and brimstone attitude.But even then i decided to go back and give it a bash and put everything to the back of my mind. But i simply cant; everything i have read about the watchtower just tells me that this is not the truth even though i truly believe that the rank and file are sincere people just as i was in my faith.

  In the last 2 months i have been away from the meetings and my wife almost discerns that i have made up my mind.I told her the other day that i didnt like having my life controlled by a dozen or so men from new york :you should have heard her gasp. She treats Brooklyn like the vatican which most witnesses do. She then said to me ,you are gone ,that is terrible. I didnt say any more as i wasnt in a very good mood that day.

  But i have now made up my mind that this is really it ; i am just going to fade away ,try and meet some new friends and get on with my life. I am going to tell my wife any day now my position, the real reason . Also i will get round to telling my mother who is a complete zealot that i am not going back. With the elders i will just tell them that i dont feel like going as the moment or something to that effect. Yes my decision is to fade away and over the years people will get used to it, wether they like it or not. ( a lesser of 3 evils in their eyes)
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  Were you ever a victim of the "JW STARE"?

  by doodle-v in

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  you know what i'm talking about... .

  for instance, if you go to a meeting and haven't been there for ages.

  your stand up during the song and suddenly what seems like the whole cong gets afflicted with the jw stare.

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  evergreen

  Ive not been at the meeting now for a number of months and decided to go to a party recently for our congregation.At first i was cringing as i noticed one or two were giving me the stare and then i thought ,a feck it,i dont care ,love me or loath me im going to be me no matter what people think!.
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  A religion with nothing to Celebrate

  by eyeslice in

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  how sad that the witnesses have nothing to celebrate.

  the more i think about it since i stopped going to the meetings, the more i feel that spirituality and religion are about opportunities to give thanks and to celebrate life with family and friends.

  christenings or name giving ceremonies celebrate the gift of a new life to a family.

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  evergreen

  I for the first time in 12 years decided it was time to celebrate a birthday.My child recently turned 2 and i bought her a present.We also made a day of it by going to sea world. Every year on her birthday reminds me of what a special day it was.

  We are also attending a childrens xmas party which we have been invited to by a very worthwhile charity as my child has a certain condition she was born with .I managed to get my wife to go and she is looking forward to it.(also first time in 12 years)

  ps true what you are saying about the singing .totally lacks soul! Half hearted
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  Comments You Will Not Hear At the 10-31-04 WT Study (Abbreviated)

  by blondie in

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  2. bible

  comments you will not hear at the october 31, 2004 wt study (september 15, 2004 issue) abbreviated

  review comments

  will be in black and parentheses ().

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  evergreen

  Blondie ,

  I always always felt that Jesus was made to look like some guy who did a great thing for us, but its as if the WT is saying "remember we are the FDS and it is us you look to". It was as if Jesus was there in the background and every now and again they make some reference to him.

  This WT once again proves what you are saying about how much Jesus is even mentioned in the WT (very little) .
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  So is there a new stance on B-days or what? Someone please explain........

  by WingCommander in

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  i have heard rumors on here and other places that jw's are now allowing birthdays to be observed/celebrated.

  is this true?

  i hope so.

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  evergreen

  Oddly out of the 3 birthdays or so in the bible dogs are refered to many more times and in much worse light yet many JWs own dogs. Go figure?

  rrrrhhrrrh( so er what are you trying to say) wuff wuff!
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  What Made Things Finally "Click" With You To Know This Was Not The Truth?

  by minimus in

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  for me it was the realization that there was no "faithful & discreet slave", that all the prophecies "proving" that jehovah's witnesses are the only religion approved by god is bogus and the realization that this is a "cult" and there is no real normal sense of love and affection in the "truth".

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  evergreen

  I aws constantly plagued with doubts about some of their teachings -Jesus being michael- dates -prophecies that seemed to apply only to the witnesses of this century-Blood issue-birthdays etc etc .

  But what really helped me to see that this is was not the truth was (when i was at a low ebb where i was having marriage difficulties) the internet when i took the courage to overcome my fear of reading some non witness information on 607 BCE and discovered that it is unfounded .It really began their and i became addicted to reading all about the WT past and all the failed dates etc.
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  What's everybody's theme song?

  by missy04 in

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  so....i'm sure everybody has some songs where they listen and feel like they're the ones speaking in the lyrics... what kind of music does everybody like and what are the songs that they relate to the most?

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  evergreen

  One tune i always used to sing when ever i would go out to the bathroom during a meeting was a song by Queen

  I cant think of the name of the song but the first 2 lines were

  Oh u oh yes i,m the great pretender ooh oh ooh oh

  Pretending i,m doing well ooh oh ooh...etc
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  What is the true Christian religion / faith?

  by evergreen in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i,m going to cut to the chase here .i am not long viewing this website and am fascinated at much of what i have read.currently i attend meetings, but sit there and think of what i now know about the society and its past.i just feel so confused at the moment with religion.. its a bit like who shot jfk ,did man really land on the moon etc .. except it involves all of us( just wish i knew the truth).

  the only thing that is keeping me there right now is that all my family are in the "truth" ,,and i cant just stay at home and be shunned which i have recently experienced ( was inactive for a while) .. if i knew beyond any shadow of a doubt that i have found the true faith and discern that it is definately the true faith, i would then make a stand and nothing would stop me .

  already i am reading the scriptures without the aid of wt publications and what i am reading is amazing .i am starting to feel that i am now getting closer to god by simply doing this coupled with prayer.. there must be one true faith as there was in the first century.

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  evergreen

  Terry

  Don't waste any more time in this pursuit. Get on with your life. Make something wonderful out of it by using YOUR OWN MIND. Don't get bogged down searching for a treasure map in the dumpster of history. Look at the "bible" for what it is: tens of thousands of scraps of garbage dug out of caves that has rotted and been pieced together by guesswork and the endless toil of obsessive-compulsive neurotics hell-bent on reassembling the ravings of lunatics from dark ages hence.

  lol ,,where do i begin.,,lol

  Boy are you anti religion.I think i understand why you feel this way.Before i became a JW i was born into a religion that quite frankly sums up much of what you have said here.I hated religion and viewed it as the cause of many conflicts and wars or at least adding fuel to the flames.

  I hated religion for all the trouble it had and still is causing in the world.I gave up on religion from about the age of 16 up untill i was about 23. Not long ,i know but i simply couldnt equate the picture i had of Jesus that was being preached from the pulpit to his so called followers that were and have been heavily involved in the many of the terrible things that have happened right down through history.

  But when i became religous again after studying with the witnesses, i could now see the jesus ( to an extent /at the time ) that i pictured when i was a boy.Now that i am at a crossroads again in connection with my faith , I still sincerely believe in those pages in the bible.I believe that they were inspired .You only have to look at the prophecies ,the history ,the science of the bible pages and see it is accurate.

  Jesus miracles were seen by many eye witnesses and written down for us,and at least we can have the hope of seeing our loved ones again. If not what else is there. Just nothing.

  I used to have awful nightmares when i didnt believe in anything .I always used to have a dream that i was in an accident and then all i could see was blackness / nothing and i always woke up in a terrible sweat,and it really did scare me.I even went and bought a book on dreams and interpreting them to find out the meaning of this dream.It was here that i read about certain individuals in the bible had dreams and it was then i decided to read the bible ( even my own mother who was studying with the witnesse for years couldnt get me to read a bible as i was so anti religion).

  It was from here i began to dig a little further and the rest is history. I have been there before re not having a faith and i couldnt cope with it. I truly need some sort of faith in my life . I want to at least have a hope for the future. I truly do believe in the message Jesus gave us and try to follow his path in life. But at the same time i will get on with my life and not allow myself to get bogged down by man made (WT) rules!

  Thankyou for your views though.