real shock i know that a jw would do that.
i found out today that my mom took my son to the kh behind my back when she was in town visiting.
he's just a little baby so he will have no memories of it.
My parents asked to have my kids over for a sleep-over shortly after we left. At the time, our kids were 4 and 6 (roughly). It wasn't a meeting night so we didn't think much about it. Well, my parents decided to have a "bible study" with the kids. What did the kids get out of it? "God takes people who aren't JW's and throws them to the lions."
After that, my parents couldn't have unsupervised visits with the kids.
Kwin
i'm a newbie, bin lurking for days and bin doing so much research from your informative threads that my family think i'm possibly "comin back in the truth" =not!
this is my 1st post so forgive if already done before, but just wondered what you had to "sacrifice to come in the truth?
in my case, i was baptised in early 80's, my study conductor and all the dubs heavily drilled into us young-uns to sacrifice whatever it takes to please the org.
A complete scholarship (including living and spending allowance) to the University of Osaka, Japan. (a friend was a prof. there and had an "in" for me)
Kwin
growing up w a very demanding/strict/abusive father, and w the wt religion and the yhwh god, i always felt that i was accountable to those authority figures, 24/7.
in my teen yrs, i had to leave home, so my accountabiblity to my father diminished.
he was dffed a bit later on.
You are accountable to someone. You.
Kwin
i saw this today on an email and wanted to share it with y'all.. "i may not be perfect, but i'm canadian and that's close enough.
i am only 140 miles geographically and 2 generations from being canadian, so i can appreciate your sentiments on the subject!.
shelly
You may be close to Canada, but that's the west coast. We're trying to alienate them because they're all organic food growing, pot smoking, multi-woman marrying hippies. Yes ... perfection! Maybe it's them who's alienating us Upper Canadians.
Kwin
there's this idiot co-worker i need to vent about.
he says he's a christian but he's one of those that i don't believe really gets it and certainly doesn't act like a christian.
he doesn't think jws are that bad.
Well, I'd say he's right. You never know.
Edited to add: Odder things have happened (in his perspective.) Obviously if he "doesn't get it" then he wouldn't see the difference between a legitimate church and a cult. To him, you never know.
Personally I'd like to say that I'd never go back, but by saying "you never know" it allows for the minute chance that I could. And, I guess maybe, just maybe there is a one tenth of a billionth chance that I may go back.
Kwin
if there is no god, does this make us the most intelligent animal?.
Anyone who believes that man is "just another animal" is a plain fool, and if they have a degree, they are just an "educated fool".
Where do I get my dunce cap?
As someone stated earlier, human DNA and chimp DNA have only a 3% difference. Does that make chimps 97% non-animal?
Kwin
watchtower--ngo with wango!
if the watchtower society truly believes in a "new world" then why are they joining organizations that are attempting to make this old one better?
activitieswango is unique in regularly bringing together a prestigious, international leadership of non-governmental organizations, as well as other prominent leaders, representing diverse nations, perspectives, and realms of activity, and who are integrally involved in advancing world peace and creating a better society and world.
This is good. Good discovery, whoever found it.
Kwin
the mission is great preparation for marriage, elder ward laughs as he mixes his kool-aid.. that was the most frustrating lesson ive ever been in, elder triplet says afterward.
he likes the church.
he thinks its true.".
Wow, they have to report to their leaders DAILY! I thought monthly was bad!
Kwin
the mission is great preparation for marriage, elder ward laughs as he mixes his kool-aid.. that was the most frustrating lesson ive ever been in, elder triplet says afterward.
he likes the church.
he thinks its true.".
Elder Ward laughs as he mixes his Kool-Aid.
This jumped out at me. YES ... DRINK THE KOOL-AID!
Kwin
if there is no god, does this make us the most intelligent animal?.
I just see danger in teaching our children we are nothing more than an animal because the implication is that we are not uniquely designed and created. We are just an accident, a 'poof' that just happened.
I think it's much more dangerous to teach our children there is a God, especially the way it is being done now. We're destroying our earth, but no big deal, God will fix it. That takes the responsibility off of US. So who fixes it? Also, teaching our kids that there is a God, who's different then other people's gods. Our God is better, stronger and real. Other gods are false and weak, and are a tool of the devil. Where's tolerance in all of that, and accepting others rights to have beliefs? Teaching kids about God, teaches them to hate.
Besides, who said us being here was an accident? Statistically speaking, it was bound to happen somewhere, and could very well have happened elsewhere as well. If you play the same numbers in the lottery for a million years and finally won, is it an accident?
If evolution didn't happen, then why would God leave so many clues hidden around the earth and the universe to prove that he did?
I remember reading an article a year or two ago regarding fossilized remains found on an island. The reason they were a big deal is because all the remains were miniturized. Elephants the size of horses. Why? Because there was no reason for them to be big. There were no preditors on the island so over millions of years they got smaller and smaller, just the natural evolutionary process. Why would God leave a clue like that?
Kwin
