http://ffrf.org/quiz/bquiz.php.
we found this quiz after reading the book parenting beyond belief and sweetpea and i decided to take the challenge - afterall how difficult can 50 bible questions be for us born and brought up as jw's?.
our results were enlightening to say the least - we both scored 28/50 - not exactly brilliant although apparently above average.. take the quiz and post your results and comments..
41/50 - but some of them were a bit of a stretch. Jesus wasn't REALLY advocating castrating yourself, the Jeremiah bit wasn't about Christmas trees, etc. It's a shame that these types of quiz/stories/lists push too far and become almost dishonest. The Bible has plenty of stuff to make fun of, no need to make anything up.
Dave
Neat!
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/jehovah's_witnesses.
i like wikipedia.
it explains everything so well.. look at the last column about the great tribulation and all the changes during those years.. .
>>so simple even R&F witnesses can understand.
R&F: "Blah-blah-blah-*light-gets-brighter*-blah-blah-blah"
Dave
they were in the ark for such a long time, must have been pretty messy not to mention unhealthy, must have been a high mortality rate, causeing wide spead disease, and death due to the very unsanitary condition in that ark?
imagine being locked up in that mess for a moment..
In case Hooberus doesn't make it by today:
From: http://www.answersingenesis.org/articles/am/v2/n2/caring-for-the-animals
(This is only an excerpt, I encourage you to read the entire page. VERY entertaining!)
What Did Noah and His Family Do with the Animal Waste?
As much as 12 U.S. tons (11 m. tons) of animal waste may have been produced daily. The key to keeping the enclosures clean was to avoid the need for Noah and his family to do the work. The right systems could also prevent the need to change animal bedding. Noah could have accomplished this in several ways. One possibility would be to allow the waste to accumulate below the animals, much as we see in modern pet shops. In this regard, there could have been slatted floors, and animals could have trampled their waste into the pits below. Small animals, such as birds, could have multiple levels in their enclosures, and waste could have simply accumulated at the bottom of each.
The danger of toxic or explosive manure gases, such as methane, would be alleviated by the constant movement of the Ark, which would have allowed manure gases to be constantly released. Secondly, methane, which is half the density of air, would quickly find its way out of a small opening such as a window. There is no reason to believe that the levels of these gases within the Ark would have approached hazardous levels.
Alternatively, sloped floors would have allowed the waste to flow into large central gutters. Noah’s family could have then dumped this overboard without an excessive expenditure of manpower.
The problem of manure odor may, at first thought, seem insurmountable. But we must remember that, throughout most of human history, humans lived together with their farm animals. Barns, separate from human living quarters, are a relatively recent development.
Dave
hey, the so-called "secret" or "members only" watchtower is available online at www.jw.org.
yes, it's true.
the fds is trying to control us so much, they are making it available in a top secret location; the internet!
Have to agree that making audio editions publicly available is just a PR move. Though also a cost-cutting measure, cheaper than the cassettes. I wonder how many JW's that get the cassettes will switch to MP3's?
I don't think technology exists yet to take an audio file and convert it to text. Dragon requires you to train it first to YOUR voice. So sending random voices through it wouldn't work.
Dave
they were in the ark for such a long time, must have been pretty messy not to mention unhealthy, must have been a high mortality rate, causeing wide spead disease, and death due to the very unsanitary condition in that ark?
imagine being locked up in that mess for a moment..
>>Good point Dave, hence the black hole theory.
Now we know why they're black, eh? ;-)
Dave
any ideas what jws say?
>>ANY IDEAS WHAT JWS SAY?
Believe it or not, the JW's use that question as an example of ones we shouldn't ask. It leads to "questioning" the Bible. Sorry, I don't have a reference for it. :-(
Dave
well, the major record industry has shown its complete impotence in the face of rapidly changing musical technology and are now in court asserting that buying a cd and copying it to your own pc for personal use is an indictable offense and one which they will prosecute.. http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/12/28/ar2007122800693.html?hpid=topnews.
it is no secret that the major record labels are crumbling before our eyes.
employees are being laid off in their thousands, shareholders are squealing like petulant piglets and their human commodities, the musicians are sitting on the sidelines wide-eyed.. i have never been an exponent of illegal downloading of music, though its inevitability should by now have produced some remodelling to the record companies business plan.
I'm afraid I've never gotten a comfortable opinion on this topic. I certainly buy that it's illegal to buy one CD, then copy it and give it to someone else. And it would be equally illegal to rip the cd to mp3's and give THOSE away. But is it illegal (or "wrong") for me to make a backup of my CD, in case I lose/break the original? Is it illegal/wrong to make that backup on my computer? Is it illegal/wrong for me to use that backup (as MP3's, on my player) instead of the CD?
A good model I saw software makers use was, "You can make copies, you can install them on multiple computers. But you can only use one copy at a time." Largely unenforceable, but a good concept.
BTW, I love the phrase "petulant piglets". Brilliant!
Dave
they were in the ark for such a long time, must have been pretty messy not to mention unhealthy, must have been a high mortality rate, causeing wide spead disease, and death due to the very unsanitary condition in that ark?
imagine being locked up in that mess for a moment..
>>Well, as for the animal shit: he shoveled it off the ark into the water.
He must've bucketed as well as shoveled. And ladder'd, since the ark was 3 stories tall. And the only window was at the top. Just for fun, consider that the two elephants alone (assuming there were only 2 and not 7) would have produced nearly 700 pounds of poop a day. There were 8 custodians of this ark. That's a helluva lotta shovelin'.
ALMOST as much shovelin' as it takes to try to sell this 'global flood' story! ;-)
Dave
>>I am confident that not a damn soul is going to read this
Nope, not a word. ;-)
(Happy New Year!)
Dave
