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  What effect does 'Apostate Pressure' have on the bOrg?

  by AK - Jeff in

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  will increased pressure - pickets, websites, books, letters to fellow witnesses, have a positive or negative impact on the ultimate goal most apostates have - seeing the organization eventually crumble and fall?.

  my take is that more pressure is good.

  it makes the 'real personality' of the organization express itself in greater oppression, more demands, greater efforts to isolate the flock from education, career, family, reality.. eventual result of oppression is rebellion.

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  I don't think it makes a HUGE impact. I say this because I think if they feel any pressure it boosts the "oh good, sign of the times, end is close at hand keep doing what we are doing" mantra.

  My sister just invited me to her assembly last week, she said i might hear something i liked. I told her I listened for about 20 years and heard nothing, so sorry no go. She said what she is really enjoying about assemblies these days is that the GB isn't leaving much to your conscience anymore, not a lot of grey areas, they are telling people exactly what to do in situations. She feels a great relief. less thinking for her. for those deep into it i think pressure is what they thrive on. I didn't leave beacuse of the internet, but the internet is helping me now find out a lot of reasons why my gut instinct was correct.
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  This was in our news today....Autauga county is just above Montgomery, Ala.

  by oppgirl63 in

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  autauga county church elder pleads guilty to sex abuse.

  dec 5, 2006 10:34 pm cst.

  a church elder has pleaded guilty to sexually abusing his niece.

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  mzliz

  bigmouth, that was my first laugh of the day thank you.
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  For those baptized as a JW/minor, how did you feel on your baptism day?

  by Gopher in

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  i was petrified that day.

  i felt nervous and slightly sick that morning, so i couldn't even eat breakfast.. leading up to that baptism day ( i was only 16 ), i didn't want to tell anyone about it.

  maybe because i came from a cold-hearted congregation where the other kids my age didn't like me (i was too serious), i didn't want anyone else to know.. i felt relief after the dunking was finally over.

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  mzliz

  I was 12 years old. I did it because my cousins and friends were. Also my father about 3 times a week (usually coinciding with our studying) would tell us that we would die at armageddon if we weren't baptized. He would say that I would never see my 18th birthday in this system, the end was so close.

  So baptized I was!! It was wet, i was nervous, i felt nothing besides worrying about what people were thinking of my chubby little 12 yr. old body.

  I recieved a few presents afterwards and remember someone taking issue with gift giving at baptisms, so i was told not to show anyone my presents as I could stumble someone (the persons point was that this was to be expected of me, why make a big deal out of it).

  I remember wondering why everthing had to be so hard.
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  Your favourite place....

  by diamondblue1974 in

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  do you have a favourite place in the world...if so where is it, why and do you have photos?.

  mine has to be nisyros (a very small greek island near kos); i last visited there some years ago and ever since i was captivated by its beauty and tranquility.

  in short its a volcanic island but unspoiled by tourism; the people are amazing and so down to earth.. take a look.

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  Koh Chang island, Thailand.
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  A Ghost from the past

  by The wanderer in

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  <!-- .style1 { font-family: garamond; font-size: 24px; font-weight: bold; } .style2 { font-family: arial, sans-serif; font-size: 14px; } .style3 {color: #c5927f} --> a ghost from the past .

  an ugly fight between two friends can damage a friendly relationship.

  almost irreparably.

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  mzliz

  Wanderer,

  I have to say that I don't believe that a witness would be trying to reconcile a friendship without the motive of trying to get you back. Maybe he's on his way out and is looking for support. If he isn't I would be very careful.

  Liz
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  2alcholicparents:$$$ 1jwabusivemother:$# Being screwed up for life:priceles

  by luvbug2007 in

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  my story is simple really.. sorry its kida long.

  mother was dfd in 1975, during this time we were free to celebrate all holidays.

  during this time were were livng overseas, where my grandparents were missionaries.

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  I am so sorry, your story is so heart wrenching. It seems as if the org. breeds alcoholics and pedophiles. It does nothing to protect children, treats them as second class citizens. I am glad you are out and can start surrounding yourself with healthy people, Liz
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  Twenty four elders?

  by Anony-Mouse in

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  i dunno if this is just me or what but.... .

  i have never heard of this!

  nearing 17 years...and just recently the words "twenty-four elders" has popped up 3 or 4 times.

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  mzliz

  I tossed all of my books a while ago to be able to look this one up. I was wondering about this as well since someone mentioned it in one of the threads, anyone going to help us???
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  My Haunted Office

  by Warlock in

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  the following account is 100% true and all of the paranormal activity was experienced firsthand by me.. i work in a converted garage.

  there is a side door, with a window, and a back door with a window that leads to a swimming pool.

  both doors have cloth canopies to keep out some of the sunlight.

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  Hi Warlock,

  I believe you.i just started experiencing things of that nature about a year ago in a different house.

  After months of odd activity, i mentioned it to my landlord in a very offhand way, asking if others had reported anything about the house. She told me one other person had, a girl my age with the same name. She freaked and moved out, I got

  a medium in and help release what was in there. The activity stopped afterwards. By the way My BF is/was/is the

  biggest sceptic about this stuff and experienced it all with me and going through ALL of the "logical"explanatons came to the same conclusion. good luck with that!
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  I'm out of kleenexes

  by gwyneth in

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  my friend's ex-husband was killed instantly in a car accident on sunday.

  my daughter actually probably knew him better in recent years than i did, as she would accompany their daughter tori to his house on his weekends for four-wheeling, fishing, etc.

  i have never been to a viewing before.

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  gwyneth, I'm crying just reading your post (somethings wrong with ME:)

  you sound like a compassionate person, let it out! I'm so sorry for his family and yours and all that are affected by this tragic loss. sending love and light,

  Liz
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  I am sooooooo upset

  by megsmomma in

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  the wts makes me so angry....i just talked to my sh*t head step dad who treated me like crap all my life and who is now trying to tell me how apostate i have become and how it was me who left my mother in the first place when i left the dubs...(so i shunned her first????

  ) he said he could hear the "apostate" in my voice....god i hate it!!

  there is no reasoning with them at all....it feels so hopeless.

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  mzliz

  Hi, So sorry. Its impossible to reason with them, I was also told by my brother/sister/ parents that I left them and because of me leaving i caused so much stress in the family. THIS IS THEIR CHOICE!!!! But they are so brainwashed, I'm sorry again. Liz