Sorry I can't tell for the time being. I'm still in as elder and came from af small country in the north of Europe. To give you the name is to big a risk at the moment.
beroea
kingdom ministry school cancelled.
we have just received a message from the borg to all elder that the kms planed to take place the end of 2001 is cancelled.
i don't know if this is worlwide or only in my country in europe.
Sorry I can't tell for the time being. I'm still in as elder and came from af small country in the north of Europe. To give you the name is to big a risk at the moment.
beroea
kingdom ministry school cancelled.
we have just received a message from the borg to all elder that the kms planed to take place the end of 2001 is cancelled.
i don't know if this is worlwide or only in my country in europe.
Kingdom Ministry School cancelled
We have just received a message from the Borg to all elder that the KMS planed to take place the end of 2001 is cancelled. I don't know if this is worlwide or only in my country in Europe.
Explanation in the letter: We are sorry but we are unable in time to have all the lessons finished.
Wonder if that’s the real true.
beroea
it is a fact that women generally live longer than men.
the time will soon come when by far the greater part of the 'remnant' on earth will be female.
what will this mean for the role of the governing body?.
Not a chance. Women can be FDS but never GB
Beroea
i'm new on this board.
i hope to share my own experience on how i'm exiting out of this org.
pls stay tune for more.
Your welcome. Tell you story!!!!!!
Beroea
the following are excerpts from the offical office of public affaris of jehovah's witnesses website:.
do you believe that you are the only ones who will be saved?.
many millions who have lived in centuries past and who were not jehovah's witnesses will come back in a resurrection and have an opportunity for life.
Very simple. The game is just at matter of not playing with open cards. Try to hide the real statements and doctrines
beroea
i received this recently from my mother.
the only contact i've had with any of my family since october has been an occasional email.
you are 28 years old and you made the choice to put yourself, and us, in this position.
Please remember your parents still love you but are under the press of the way JW handle each other. I remember my sister 20 years ago decided to leave the “truth”. I was very angry with her. We were very close connected to each other. I did blame her leaving us. I didn’t do anything wrong!!!!. Today I do know better. I didn’t showed respect for her and my love for her was not an unconditional love. I really regret that today.
But the JW way of thinking is very strong and love between people inside – like my self – are restricted by the loyalty to the society. We forget the love to God and people close – and also fare away – to us.
Try to think that you parents are only victims of the “truth” and they – if they are normal human beings – still loves and cares. But due to circumstances they are unable so show it.
What a pity
beroea
the jw box of pandora.
as some of you maybe know i still inside the borg waiting for the right moment: i try to take care of my wife and two children that a love very much and try to do things easy and gentle not harming anyone.
do you remember the story about the box of pandora from the greek mythology?
The JW box of Pandora
As some of you maybe know I still inside the Borg waiting for the right moment: I try to take care of my wife and two children that a love very much and try to do things easy and gentle not harming anyone. Do you remember the story about the box of Pandora from the Greek mythology?
I did have a funny experience the others day. I what at a JW get together with 3 families – two of the men was elder included my self and one MS. I don’t remember what started the whole mess. I think it was something about children not having the possibilities to have ice and other things at the big summer conventions. In about 10 minutes the discussions get very hot and a lot of frustrations about all the rules and binding of the JW was brought to discussion. I didn’t say much trying to see what happen.
After 1 glass or two of the wines it all ended up into a discussion about all the broken promises and even no one dare to say it - they all blame the GB and the society as leader? One said that if something didn’t happen in 10-15 years it would collapse in total. Remember everyone was inside and very active JW and 2 of even elder too. The wife’s was I fact the most talking and angry.
It was a little scaring (by JW terminology). It made me smiled a little bit inside. I think my wife was thinking a lot about “what was that”? She knows a lot of my thoughts but is not ready to handle and I try to show patience about that.
I wonder what will happen next time!
Beroea
jst2laws is toast!.
after 29 years i am officially no longer serving as an elder.
those who knew i was still serving would only be surprised that i took so long.
Dear JST2LAWS
You have showed courage to stop. I’m still in and serve as elder in Europe, but waiting for the right moment and the right explanation of why to “step down”.
You’re not facing an easy time I think, but keep up your faith and take good care of your conscience and above all your family.
One question. How did you say you want to step down? Which explanation did you gave the body of elders. Did you tell them the true of just at little bite?
Try to give you self the time needed. Don’t let others bring you in a bad situation you are unable to control. If you don’t take a lot of care you could easy end in a situation of DF and be forced to write a DA letter. So be careful out there. Some will look about a little mistake or a wrong word. Try to control the speed and decisions.
Wish you the best luck.
Beroea
i feel the need to ramble.. as some of you may have detected, i at times have doubts and questions about the personality and qualities of god and the bible.
however i am still clinging to a good amount of my faith in their goodness.
this is why i am now, as some of you have in the past, studying deeply and looking for myself into what the bible says.
Yes those scriptures tell a story but sometimes and for most nearly impossible to see. There’s a deep conflict in discovering those statements and see them for what the really are.
We must all try to be open minded to facts and let the Bible tells its own story.
beroea
why are jw women so loyal to the borg?.
during the last 12 year i have been doing a lot of research about mainly the chronology of jw about the year 1914. my family are still in and very active and i serve still as elder.
my research has make me dropped the whole chronology about the year 1914 and also the authorities of dfs/gb.
dear Amnesian
You hit good points. Its not easy being elder not believes basis JW doctrines. I try to avoid those statements. I speak about basis Christian values instead. It has been easier that I though it would be. Many have been saying they like and appreciate my “new” way of speaks. They are more positive and not like many based upon fear and obeying. I also thing it’s more easier here in the north of Europe than in USA. We are more against authorities and go our own ways.
About me it started with the change of the “1914-generation” It make me feel sorrow and also a little angry for mainly all the old ones. Many of the old brothers and sister thought they were never going to die before Armageddon. By a WT lesson this was all gone and with no apologies and sorrow from the GB. That made me a little anger. Little by little it forced me to think about the whole thing and about a ½ a year ago I started serious to find information mainly about chronology. That information has made me reconsider my beliefs about the 1914 and the GB.
But I love my family. I have a beautiful wife and 2 children at 12 and 14 year which I will never do anything wrong against. So new thoughts must come slow and gentle
Beroea