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  DO YOU FEAR THE DEAD AND ARMAGEDDON

  by beroea in

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  do you fear to die or refuse to think of that matter.

  during times the fear of dear is the deep source of the talk about armageddon and the eschatology.

  to face to die is a hard one to swallow.

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  Do you fear the dead and Armageddon

  Do you fear to die or refuse to think of that matter. During times the fear of dear is the deep source of the talk about Armageddon and the eschatology. To face to die is a hard one to swallow. We do need the hope that the end really isn’t the ultimate end at all. So an end of the world must have inside a hope of something new and better.

  Most of us thinking about the end of our personal life and existing refuse to accept that. We create a hope that the dead must be a beginning of something new. Life will continue and we wish to never stop thinking and being living and existing.

  Maybe that’s a main reason of religions like Jehovah’s Witnesses and others like them. Giving a hope of an end that isn’t and ends after all.

  Are that fear a part of you and does it influence your way of living and thinking. Or do you feel the freedom of that?

  Beroea
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  Ruminations on the Whole WTBTS Mess. Part 1.

  by LoneWolf in

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  hi, folks,.

  hmmm.

  ive bitten myself off a pretty good chunk here, so bear with me as i try to figure out where to start.. two things id better say up front, though: none of this is meant to be in any way, a devaluing of the phenomenal work thats been done by anyone here on the board.

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  beroea

  Til Mr. Magoo

  En dansker på linien - det er ikke tit. Hvor kommer du fra og er du ude eller inde. Du er velkommen til at kontakte mig via mail. Jeg er stadig inde, men har droppet alt omkring kronologi mv.

  beroea
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  Cyril Lykkebo Malka

  by Kent in

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  hi folks .

  a guy named cyril lykkebo malka, who made a lot of trouble with the danish support group for ex-jws, is making trouble for every ex-jw website who carries material printed by the danish christian newspaper "kristelig dagblad".. malka, it seems, seeks up these sites, and the journalist sends threats to the webowners about removing the material.. on malka's own website, http://www.malka.dk you will find that this joker steals material as anybody else, and he's been stealing lots of material from the watchtower observer, like documents from the hlc, pay attention, and other material.. he never tells anyone where he got the material, but he does write some interesting stuff:.

  he publishes material printed in african newspapers (translated), and tells his readers kristelig dagblad has printed this story "slightly changed"!.

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  I know a little of his writings in Denmark. I will come back later with some information to you. I don’t know him personal only his writing and some seams very interesting about how JW thinks and reacts.

  beroea
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  This week's book study and UN

  by beroea in

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  this weeks book study.

  this night i went to the book study local this area.

  isaiahs book are the subject.

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  beroea

  This week’s book study

  This night I went to the book study local this area. Isaiah’s book are the subject.

  Chapter 9 § 29 says. Jehovah’s servants of today are not in union with religious organisations and do not put confidence in political organisations.

  A lot of comments from the brothers and sisters said that we can’t serve two masters and must stay clean of this world. So “we” are the clean ones!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  NO ONE KNOWED WE HAVE BEEN IN BED WITH UN.

  BEREOA
  A voice from Europe
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  My personal "Alamo"

  by Lee Elder in

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  br.

  br.

  i only saw br.

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  beroea

  Dear Lee Elder

  Thanks for you post. As elder still here in the north of Europe I have similar experience. The battle between the moderators and the organisation men are going on in many bodies of local elders.

  We get one of those really “loyal" men in our congregations about 5 years ago. He has a great background as a loyal man to the BORG and served very high in “Jehovah’s visible organisation”. A pure brainwashed man - not stupid - but unable to see his own evil acts towards the little ones in the congregations. Our PO looks at him as his mentor so we have a lot of battles.

  Another time I will tell more but I share your experience. It’s a challenge to the conscience.

  Beroea
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  EUROPEAN JW VERSUS USA JW

  by beroea in

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  european jw versus usa jw.

  this board is very dominant by experience from us about the jw lives.

  we are only a few from others parts of the world participate.

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  I think the South of Europe is a lot more conservative than the Northern part - where I live. It’s mainly down to the cultural fact that the northern part of Europe is dominant by the protestant way of thinking. The south is catholic and dominates of more conservatism but that will change in the near future.

  That's also the reason why the north Europe (maybe excepts UK) is more anti-authority than others. We don’t like authorities telling us what to do and think.

  beroea
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  EUROPEAN JW VERSUS USA JW

  by beroea in

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  european jw versus usa jw.

  this board is very dominant by experience from us about the jw lives.

  we are only a few from others parts of the world participate.

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  European JW versus USA JW

  This board is very dominant by experience from US about the JW lives. We are only a few from others parts of the world participate. I live in northern part of Europe. Sometimes reading your experience from USA I appreciate not living there. Don’t misunderstand that opinion. I think USA as a country is great, but the USA JW community isn’t so.

  I think the freedom in Europe is higher and more tolerant. We have our problems as well and the whole structure of power and anything about the chronology and the GB is of course the same. But daily lives in the congregation seams to be another world.

  Let me give you some examples: We have women wearing pants at the meetings and in public preaching works and no one cares. We have elder doing mounting climbing and participate in sport competitions. We have a lot of young people taking university educations – all very normal.
  We have elder going on 3-month holydays away from the congregations and continue to be elder when he comes back. I could mention more.

  What’s your experience? Are the above mention examples acceptable in USA? Do others from Europe or other area of the world outside USA have similar experience?

  Beroea
  A voice from Europe
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  WTBS/UN - SO WHAT AND WHO CARES?

  by beroea in

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  wtbs/un so what and who cares?.

  the big story on this board is unquestionable the scandal about jw in bed with un since 1991. but only a few take notice outside this board.

  it really doesnt have the attention of the press in general and never will.

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  WTBS/UN – SO WHAT AND WHO CARES?

  The big story on this board is unquestionable the scandal about JW in bed with UN since 1991. But only a few take notice outside this board. It really doesn’t have the attention of the press in general and never will. With this boards eyes, it’s really a BIG STORY but looking at it with public eyes it’s nothing.

  Try to face it logical. Only a few on this board look at UN as the Beast in the Revelation. To use that comparison is plain stupid and nonsense. It’s typical for the “prophet” in Brooklyn. For me and other UN does a lot of good thing for the world and I personal support that and look at UN as an authority we as Christians must respect according to Romans 13:1.

  So personal I don’t see anything wrong with supporting some at the UN activities. I think that’s the reason why this “big story” isn’t a big story in public. In the public UN is “a good guy” so if some support them it’s positive - not negative.

  As an inside JW view the case is big. It tells a lot about the Borg following it’s own sometimes hidden and secret rules and demand something very different and more of it’s followers. But that’s often seen in close “sects” communities.

  So this big story isn’t going to harm the JW in public - only inside. The facts is that only a very few know anything about it and the Borg will succeed in telling the story about “we didn’t know” or it was only a “library card” to the very few asking. The mechanism that JW never talks negative about the BORG will play its role and only in a very few “dark and private” rooms it will play a role.

  That’s just my opinion and judgement about the final outcome of this “BIG STORY”. If you have other opinion (maybe more optimism) tell why and state the reason for this view.

  Beroea
  A voice from Europe
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  Does fear control you?

  by beroea in

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  does fear control you?.

  about 2 weeks ago my old parent visit our families for some days.

  during the visit i told my parents about the un case and showed them also a letter from our national jw office about the case mention the library excuse.

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  Does fear control you?

  About 2 weeks ago my old parent visit our families for some days. During the visit I told my parents about the UN case and showed them also a letter from our national JW office about the case mention the “Library excuse”. I was discussing mainly with my mother during some late nights talk. I’m sorry this didn’t happen so often, but they live in another part of my country here in the north of Europe. I didn’t tell my mother everything about my thoughts about the JW only a little but enough to made her react.

  My mother has always been a strong woman with the will to think her own though, but still practice the loyal JW attitude. One thing did surprise my a little. Her reaction was a split between sorrow and fear. The role of fear was big – bigger than I though it was in my mother’s life.

  She was really frightened about my thoughts and comments even they were very balance and only was a small part of it all. She didn’t say my comments was wrong or against the Bible. Mostly she was afraid of the Organisation and a respond from the Borg if they knew about my thinking. Again and again she said “be careful my son, be careful” and “Don’t say this to anybody”. Not a word concerning my thinking and the real content of my words, but strong fear towards the Borg and a reaction against our family (By the way – I am very careful. As active elder I do know how the system works).

  I don’t fell the same level of fear as my mother, but anyway fear is a factor. Fear makes you passive and non-active in thinking. It’s also a strong factor making you staying inside. My fear is not personal (I really don’t care) but must admit that with wife and children I too think twice and deep.

  Did fear control you in the past – and maybe still - and what role did it play on your journey away from the Borg?

  Beroea
  A voice from Europe
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  Active JW's Who Question The UN/WTBTS...

  by zev in

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  one question.

  have any of you who have written to the borganization, about the un/wtbts relationship, heard any replys?

  i know many of you have.. i'm not looking for details, though you can include them as you see fit.. a yes or no will do for now.. thanks so much.. .

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  I have received answer. But the content was close to zero.

  Bereoa