I started to have these in my early teens,and being already firmly entrenched
in the JW-teachings,I tought I was being harrassed by demons and such.
I can clearly remember "levitating" above the bed I was sleeping in,and
then waking up scared.
I never talked to anyone about this at that time,I did not even *know*
about OOBE,never heard the term before,but when I left the JW's and started
reading esoteric and occult literature,it became clear what I had experienced.
To me this is proof enough that these things have a grain of truth in
them,I could not have made this up since I did not even know
what to call it at that time.
It now happens rarely and I don't have any need in forcing it.
berten
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OOBE, lucid dreams and astro projection
by SpiceItUp ini waas reading janh post on the chemicals in our brains relating to various phenomenon.
started to think about the subject of astro-projection, also known as out of body experiences and even sometimes called lucid dreaming.. this is a cool site i found on it...... .
another link i found describes lucid dreaming and astro-projecting to be different..... http://www.spiritweb.org/spirit/obe-vs-lucid.html.
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JW urban legends
by berten inin my time as jw there was at least one urban legend that was very popular.
amongst jaydubs.this was about the dog named "jehovah" by it's jw-hating owner.
so that when he got visited by them once again,he could shout "jehovah,attack!"..
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Another popular story was the one about the three JW doing fieldwork
in a country where JW's were forbidden.They walked through a forest
when a thunderstorm started up.One of the JW was killed by lightning
and when the other two searched his belongings,it turned out he was no
JW at all but a government spy who worked himself up within the JW.How nice,Jehover who zaps a spy to protect his flock,
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?????
by ewtie inno one has to be a witness, or have you overlooked that?.
panorama prog., the producer admitted on sky television that she hated jws.
unbiased reporting?.
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>My biggest problem with the Panorama programme is that in having been a Witness for 45 years
>I have only heard of one pedophile in the organisation and he had repented.
>The Panorama programme just does not add up to my many years experience in the Truth.During my years as a JW I also did not hear anything about pedophiles but I saw
alot of childbeating and thought this was normal because they could not sit still
during the two hours of boring talks.
I mean,children were dragged to a seperate room,(Jokingly called "The Torture Room"
by many in our congregation)to get a serious beating and/or
to be placed in a corner as punishment.
The way they treat children and this whole pedophile covering up business is somehow
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The book that will bring Ethics to the GB.
by Bleep inthe governing body may be too old to teach sex education.
but they are wise in other matters.. i have made a new topic since i slaughtered the book in the last topic of raymond franz.
do not forget that he made a mistake in being a 100% governing body thinker.. no organization at its early stages can live up to jehovah's expectations and no one is perfect.. please list some good ideas, ethics that the governing body has done here.
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>I am trying to please Jehovah...
I wonder,Bleep,how you go about trying to please an entity that so far has not proved its existence.
How does he like it anyway? Do you <bleep> him up the <bleep> ? Or what ?
( Sorry,I could not help making fun of your screen-name :-)
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Not just another Bible.
by Bleep inthe nwt bible was writen from the original hebrew, greek, and aramaic .
manuscripts.
some found in the dead sea caves in 1950. there is no cost.
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The NWT is not even good enough as toilet paper:
the sheets are too thin and don't absorb very well.
That's why (Amongst other reasons) I burned my copy of the NWT...
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WatchTower travelbureaux
by berten in.
in 1978 the wt-org organized one-week travels through israel.. cost was around 18000 old belgian franks per person.. we visited the north and south parts,and of course jeruzalem.
at least one airplane was chartered from belgium alone.. anyone remember this?i mean,was this a local thing?
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In 1978 the WT-org organized one-week travels through Israel.
Cost was around 18000 old Belgian Franks per person.
We visited the north and south parts,and of course Jeruzalem.
At least one airplane was chartered from Belgium alone.
Anyone remember this?I mean,was this a local thing? (I think not)...
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JW urban legends
by berten inin my time as jw there was at least one urban legend that was very popular.
amongst jaydubs.this was about the dog named "jehovah" by it's jw-hating owner.
so that when he got visited by them once again,he could shout "jehovah,attack!"..
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In my time as JW there was at least one urban legend that was very popular
amongst jaydubs.This was about the dog named "Jehovah" by it's JW-hating owner
so that when he got visited by them once again,he could shout "Jehovah,attack!".
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Asteroid + Dow Jones = You Know's Prophecy
by Amazing in.
okay you know: i am confused and need some wisdom.
see my secular humanist response below.edited by - amazing on 24 july 2002 19:44:40.
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2019?
Check this site:
http://www.prep2003.com
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Who says DISCO is dead?
by FreeRangeChicken inwho says is dead?
"whether you're a brother or whether you're a mother,.
you're stayin' alive, stayin' alive.. feel the city breakin' and everybody shakin',.
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Jimmy "Bo" Horne - Spank
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo, spank
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo, spank
When you're lovin' me lady, spank
That's how I want it to be baby, spank
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, do it, do it, do it, do it
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, let's get to it to it, spank
Let's make love from our hearts
When we do it's really hard to part
Combine our minds this time
Quite sure our love won't go blind
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, do it, do it, do it, do it
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, let's get to it to it, spank
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, do it, do it, do it, do it
Spank, woo, woo, woo, woo
Spank, let's get to it to it, spank -
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POLL: New to This Board? Please Sign In Here!!
by Seeker4 ini don't get to check this board as often as i'd like, but i have noticed that there seems to be a huge number of new posters here.
every day that i get to check out a few posts, i notice new names.. so, just a polite request.
if you've just started posting here in the last few months, would you mind posting a quick note on this thread?
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I have been posting here a few times already.
Anyway:I am located in Belgium(Almost 42,grew up in the cult
from my 7th year,left it at 22 out of boredom.)
and seem to be in a somewhat "unique" position
regarding JW's,because a few weeks ago I started a
thread asking for opinions on running a familybusiness
with 4 JW's,and got no response...