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  New York Times & UN/WTS

  by biblexaminer in

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  new york times december 15, 2001 .

  in a startling revelation, the watchtower bible and tract society of brooklyn ny, parent organization to the jehovah's witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.. it was revealed this week by the guardian (a leading uk newspaper) that the governing body of the watchtower religion had secretly erected a christmas tree in celebration of the festive season.

  when the facts were made public this week, the watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.. paul gilles, spokesman for the watchtower in great briton, wrote a letter to the guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the un library".

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  biblexaminer

  True... as long as the point is made that what the WTS is saying and her devotes' is hocus pocus...
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  Divorce? Help please.

  by Mulan in

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  we have a close relative who has left her jw husband.

  he is extremely controlling, and emotionally abusive.

  their children are grown.

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  biblexaminer

  Tell her to prepare some information. If he is willing to take a serious look at the REAL TRUTH, then maybe, perhaps, love can start anew. Nut this time based on REAL TRUTH.

  If he refuses to review the REAL TRUTH, then she should tell him that HE has made the decision to dis-associate himself from the marriage arrangemant.
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  New York Times & UN/WTS

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  new york times december 15, 2001 .

  in a startling revelation, the watchtower bible and tract society of brooklyn ny, parent organization to the jehovah's witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.. it was revealed this week by the guardian (a leading uk newspaper) that the governing body of the watchtower religion had secretly erected a christmas tree in celebration of the festive season.

  when the facts were made public this week, the watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.. paul gilles, spokesman for the watchtower in great briton, wrote a letter to the guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the un library".

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  biblexaminer

  For those who missed the point. I was not printing satire, that is, for entertainment purposes.

  I was attempting to put the whole UN thing in context.

  There are those who are defending the WTS with it's UN connection. This little illustration was meant to help these ones see how stupid it is to defend the WTS.

  This "story" can help blinded eyes open.

  Does the UN require a "tree"... that is, does the UN require NGO affiliation for access to library material?

  Of course not. But this illutrates how foolish the WTS defense looks, when it's put in context.
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  I Got My Book!!!

  by sweetone2377 in

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  it's been a while since i've posted here.

  but i am just so excited.

  i ordered a copy of crisis of conscience from borders and just picked it up.

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  biblexaminer

  The first time I glanced into COC, I was in a library, thinking that at any moment, an elder would walk around the corner and confront me.

  Well, guess what. An elder DID walk around the corner just as I was getting up to look for any more books. SHOCK! You can't imagine.

  All I could think, as I went numb, was how the hell is HE here...?

  I was with another ro, my best friend. He had the book in his hand as he walked around the corner and BHAM! there was the elder. He shook hands and I took over as he scampered away to lose the book ANYWHERE.

  It seems we got away with it, but I had the evil eye on me for a while.

  I did write down the address of Ray's, so I ordered the book, and then ISOCF and then GTR and then Last Days... and then.... and then...
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  New York Times & UN/WTS

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  new york times december 15, 2001 .

  in a startling revelation, the watchtower bible and tract society of brooklyn ny, parent organization to the jehovah's witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.. it was revealed this week by the guardian (a leading uk newspaper) that the governing body of the watchtower religion had secretly erected a christmas tree in celebration of the festive season.

  when the facts were made public this week, the watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.. paul gilles, spokesman for the watchtower in great briton, wrote a letter to the guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the un library".

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  biblexaminer

  Now, when I write a spoof, I get a chuckle.

  But I get a bellie laugh when somebody thinks, even after reading it through, that it was an attempt to be anything else.
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  New York Times & UN/WTS

  by biblexaminer in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  new york times december 15, 2001 .

  in a startling revelation, the watchtower bible and tract society of brooklyn ny, parent organization to the jehovah's witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.. it was revealed this week by the guardian (a leading uk newspaper) that the governing body of the watchtower religion had secretly erected a christmas tree in celebration of the festive season.

  when the facts were made public this week, the watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.. paul gilles, spokesman for the watchtower in great briton, wrote a letter to the guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the un library".

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  biblexaminer

  New York Times December 15, 2001

  In a startling revelation, the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society of Brooklyn NY, parent organization to the Jehovah's Witness religion, was exposed for a stark contradiction in their religious practices.

  It was revealed this week by The Guardian (a leading UK newspaper) that the Governing Body of the Watchtower religion had secretly erected a Christmas tree in celebration of the festive season. When the facts were made public this week, the Watchtower quickly, and quietly, removed the tree to another location.

  Paul Gilles, spokesman for the Watchtower in Great Briton, wrote a letter to The Guardian, in which he stated that the "tree was in no way secret" and that it was "necessary to gain access to the UN library". The Guardian refused to print the Watchtower's response to what members and former members have labeled as "hypocrisy in the highest form", saying that "they are nothing but a bunch of lying b's…"

  Stephen Bates, the Guardian reporter who exposed the Watchtower's skeleton, replied to the NY Times, "…they say it was not secret, yet the tree was in their Governing Body chambers where nobody is allowed to see it, and publicly they condemn trees and any who have them". Paul Hoffel, head of the department of Christmas tree ornaments at the UN was contacted regarding the Watchtower's claim. He said "…you don't need to have a tree to get to the ornaments… but if you want to get gifts, which the Watchtower did in abundance, then you need the tree" When contacted, the Watchtower made only this statement "…we have been telling the truth, …in fact we ARE the truth[TM]… when we found out that we'd be celebrating Christmas with that tree, why we took it down immediately and turned in the ornaments"

  But the members cry foul! "They say they needed the tree, yet the UN tree official says NO! " said one Jehovah's Witness from the TOTO congregation in OZ "And they tell us it wasn't secret, but hey, who knew?"

  When the Times investigators turned up evidence from the UN tree library that the Watchtower's Governing Body had been actively using the tree for purposes obviously beyond any supposed library connection, the Watchtower fell silent.

  Amid evidence that the Governing Body had maxed out their credit cards with Christmas purchases and had been seen buying up ornaments in a frenzy, the controversy on one internet message board bubbled over. Some loyal Watchtower disciples made excuse after excuse. "They were just trying to deceive the UN into thinking that they celebrate Christmas…" replied one brainless individual. "These pictures of GB members sitting round the tree opening gifts and smooching each other under the mistletoe might be fabrications … or maybe were they were made to deceive the UN officials…"

  In any case, a letter was prepared by Mr. Hoffel at the UN, stating the Watchtower's connection and their tree habits. Pictures of all the Watchtower Christmas gifts are available to view on many internet pages, giving stark evidence that the Watchtower was lying when it says that it's involvement was limited to one tree, which was supposedly "not secret" and "needed for a "library card".

  What amazes many, is the level of Watchtower hypocrisy, for just as their own hypocrisy is being exposed, they write an article condemning hypocrisy, pointing the finger at other religions for having a tree and being affiliated with the Department of tree information at the UN.

  The world will see if in coming days, whether the rank & file Jehovah's Witnesses will continue making excuses for the lying b's at Watchtower headquarters, or if they will finally come to grips with the fact that the Governing Body are just a bunch of guilty bastards who are corrupt to the core and just looking out for themselves.

  By NY Times reporter Tin Man

  
  Now that the Watchtower's crime has been expressed in relative form, do you hard core watchtower defenders still want to tell us about how great your GB gods are?

  HYPOCRITES!!!
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  DATELINE TONITE Children whipped in church

  by Trotafox in

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  dateline .

  friday, dec 14, 9:00 p.m. et.

  kids being torn from their parents.

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  biblexaminer

  I was telling Hawkaw about this on the phone the other day. I think Dateline is PRIMING THE PUMP...
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  WTS Document found in UN Collection - MAJOR

  by hawkaw in

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  i have received a package from the united nations high commissioner for human rights.

  you may recall that dino found out that the uns high commissioners office in geneva, switzerland has in its collection the november 22, 1998 awake!

  magazine article titled a long job finished (pages 3 and 4) and a second article titled the universal declaration of human rights (page 5).

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  biblexaminer

  Great work hawk!!
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  Watchtower Propaganda

  by JosephAlward in

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  many have argued that articles in awake!

  in recent years show that watchtower was letting itself be told what do by the purple beast, namely, promote the united nations in its writings.

  i can understand how many might quickly find support for this claim, for there are, indeed, many articles in awake!

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  biblexaminer

  When Adolf Hitler tortured bible students, and then some of these students signed the paper renouncing their faith, or did so orally, would you, Alward, then tell me that Hitler was not pleased?

  Would you tell me that Hitler did not gain what he wanted from these ones?

  Perhaps you, Alward, would suggest to this board that "well the ones who signed DIDN'T REALLY renounce their faith"...

  Perhaps you, ALWARD, would suggest that these ones who capitulated didn't REALLY capitulate, but that the were just trying to USE Adolf, ...sure, to make him BELIEVE that they were giving in, but that they were trying to fool him so that Hitler wouldn't have them killed!

  Alward, you are so full of crapola that you stink from here.
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  Watchtower Propaganda

  by JosephAlward in

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  many have argued that articles in awake!

  in recent years show that watchtower was letting itself be told what do by the purple beast, namely, promote the united nations in its writings.

  i can understand how many might quickly find support for this claim, for there are, indeed, many articles in awake!

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  biblexaminer

  I don't know why ya'll try to reason with this Alward character. It's obvious that he's an idiot.