I think I can get something. I am going to shmoooooze the man.
Yes, I will look over the letter before I send. This is a rough draught.
And yes, I will offer to forward some $CHING$
mr. paul hoffel united nations -dept.
of public information .
in the watchtower bible and tract society's public position of october 22,2001 submitted for publication in the guardian in the united kingdom.
I think I can get something. I am going to shmoooooze the man.
Yes, I will look over the letter before I send. This is a rough draught.
And yes, I will offer to forward some $CHING$
someone who i do not know sent the following to me for posting.
it was in my email this morning ..... hmmm...... anyway, seems people in windsor are getting to the co because of the actions of a few people - have a read.. hawk.
jehovah's witnesses are under a type of ban in windsor on canada .
This is cool! I wonder if the idiots in the Canada branch have any idea.
mr. paul hoffel united nations -dept.
of public information .
in the watchtower bible and tract society's public position of october 22,2001 submitted for publication in the guardian in the united kingdom.
Mr. Paul Hoffel United Nations -Dept. of Public Information
In the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society's public position of October 22,2001 submitted for publication in The Guardian in the United Kingdom
1) They accuse the UN of failing to inform them that the rules governing NGOs was changed between 1991 and the present.
Years later, unbeknown to the Governing Body of Jehovah’s Witnesses, the United Nations published “Criteria for Association”, stipulating that affiliated NGO’s are required to support the goals of the United Nations.2) They accuse the UN of providing misinformation, causing the Watchtower's 'mistaken' belief that it was necessary to register as an NGO for the purpose of using the UN library resources.
In 1991 one of our legal corporations registered with the United Nations as a NGO (non-governmental organization) for the sole purpose of getting access to the extensive library of the United Nations.
At the time of the initial application no signature was required on the form.
4) They state that there was nothing secret about their association with the UN, suggesting that the fault lay at the feet of the UN for not being clear in the rules regarding informing it's members of matters.
There was nothing secret about it.
We seek documents proving that the Watchtower is wrong in its attempt to impugn the reputation of the various offices of the United Nations. This would include any documentation demonstrating that its fabrications against the UN are false.
We seek copies of the Watchtower's applications, original and from year to year, this would be excellent.
Any letter that you could draw up denying the allegations of the Watchtower Bible and Tract Society. If at all possible, a public statement on the UN web-site relevant to this would serve to quell the greater number of requests for proof. I could forward the official statement from the Watchtower for your legal dept. to study, and your people could put up a page to demonstrate the Watchtower's accusations as utterly false.
Lastly, any documentation showing that the Watchtower was involved with more than just the "library".
Mr. Hoffel, this issue will not go away by ignoring it. However, if you can co-operate in this regard, then any negative repercussions your office might face due to publicity surrounding this matter will be greatly reduced.
as of 6:02 pm last night i received a facsimile from paul hoeffel at the un on the wts.. he gave me 3 of the 4 things i requested in two paragraphs.. i have sent a scanned version to steve bates and someone else.. i sent it to kent and randy.
and kent and randy have posted the official united nations letter on their web sites.. here is the letter - put your cursor on the image and then right click on your mouse and hit "save image" to your computer.. .
after you look at kent's web site and you people still think this it is a fake letter, phone paul hoeffel yourself at (212) 963-8070.. hawk
This is all good work. Bravo!
I hope that folks here don't let this issue die. The Watchtower needs to have this rammed right up their ass.
stephen bates is at it again.
brother gillis will no doubt have a no comment on this one.. .
http://www.guardian.co.uk/international/story/0,3604,596231,00.html.
As soon as I read the Chicago article the other day, I emailed my local paper and CC'd Stephen the article. He said thanks but I had no idea that it would make the Guardian ...
WAY TO GO STEVE!
watch out wts, there is a "bx" behind you and he is pi$$ed
we're rolling!!!!!!!!!!!!.
hawk
This week, 200 area churches received the CCI mailout. That's about 65% of all churches here. If all good people go to church on Sunday, and the good Pastor does his part, then 50,000 people will be informed from Community Conscious International.
I hope others did likewise.
I am eager to hear what the local newspaper doods say when the phone starts to ring.
CCI letter to Churches.doc
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/expositors/vwp2?.tok=bc_LxtOBi74oUezQ&.dir=/U.N.+and+Watchtower&.dnm=CCI+letter+to+Churches.doc&.src=bc
this week, 200 area churches received the cci mailout.
that's about 65% of all churches here.
if all good people go to church on sunday, and the good pastor does his part, then 50,000 people will be informed from community conscious international.. i hope others did likewise.
This week, 200 area churches received the CCI mailout. That's about 65% of all churches here. If all good people go to church on Sunday, and the good Pastor does his part, then 50,000 people will be informed from Community Conscious International.
I hope others did likewise.
I am eager to hear what the local newspaper doods say when the phone starts to ring.
CCI letter to Churches.doc
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/bc/expositors/vwp2?.tok=bc_LxtOBi74oUezQ&.dir=/U.N.+and+Watchtower&.dnm=CCI+letter+to+Churches.doc&.src=bc
this thread is for the serious soldier.
those who get involved here must mean business.. the link provided at bottom is to a three page letter, meant for all clergy everywhere.
it is the community conscious international newsletter informing all clerical persons of the latest watchtower scandal.
Ok. Email me your address, and I will snail you a copy.
note this gem from the 1999 january kingdom ministry:.
make good use of older books.
1 man has stored away millions of old books in libraries in every corner of the earth.
Something interesting on this. All the dubs want the "Live Forever" and the "United Nations in Worship" (woops strike the "Nations") that's "United in Worship" books.
Seems there's a concensus, the "Knowledge" book don't work.
But, those books have "old light" and the dubs want to know if they can just rip out the pages that are ... let's call stupid.
i wanted to pass along this personal experience.. the other day, my wife called me on the phone while i was at work.
keep in mind that she's unfortunately a blind jwfollowwhatevertheysay type.
she was all worked up.
I emailed you the info on CCI. Check out the post This Post For Real Soldiers under the Scandals and UN...etc link.