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  A Bible contradiction?

  by uncle_onion in

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  another book i am reading called "the jesus mysteries" makes this claim:.

  "according to matthew, jesus is born in the reign of herod, who tries to have him killed as a baby to prevent him becoming king of the jews.

  herod who died in 4bce.........luke makes a similar point of having his jesus born 10 years later at the time of the census of 6ce.".

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  Hey JanH;

  Actually i did read the account before I posted. However I'm not really into getting into philosophical debates about religion and things that happened thousands of yrs ago. That is in fact one of the major reasons why I stopped being a witness. I was justtired of debating beliefs and opinions with ppl. Your analysis of the account is in fact an opinion that depends much upon the perspective from which you view it.

  For instance after David leaves Jonathan at the end of chapter 20, the very first verse says that "later" David came into Nob to Ahimelech the priest. How much "later" is later? I mean we could argue about this all day but who knows what happened in between David's encounter with Jonathan and his appearance in Nob?

  David then tells him that he has made an appointment with the young men for such and such a place. Which in itself is an extremely vague statement. However it seems implausible to me that Daivd in the time since his last rejection by Saul had not made some sort of arrangement for his escape and this may have included others being with him as a means of prtection. However this is just my opinion. It's what i gather when I read the account. It says again at "lngth he came Achish the king of gath". How long was he there? I don't know? Do you? Then let me know. Given that how can you say that Jesus' rendering of the text is false or sloppy when so much of it is obviously left to the perspective of the reader?

  Again even in our reasoning about Jesus' application of the text we differ. Jesus in my opinion was arguing against the unjust rules the pharisees put upon the common people regarding the sabbath. David when in need was allowed to eat something that technically wasn't proscribed for him to. It actually was a breaking of the law that was tolerated due to the circumstances. Therefore how much more should the plucking of the disciples on the sabbath be tolerated, since they were breaking no part of the law of Moses, but only a law put forth by the Pharisees themselves.

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  3 good reasons to make Fred the focus of the board

  by teejay in

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  teejay:

  Hey if he's man enough to give it, he's man enough to take it. Oh yeah man I loved that Martha Carter post dude. Shit was deep. I enjoy your posts. Keep em comin!

  Peace,

  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  3 good reasons to make Fred the focus of the board

  by teejay in

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  Hey Slayer;

  Look man I get a temendous kick out you guys giving Fredahole a piece of your minds. I think it's a welcome change of pace for the board after the all the whining that went on a couple weeks ago. I think the board really has got back to it's regular way of doing things and you and TR giving everyone's favorite jdub Fredahole the business is a big part of it. Don't stop keep up the good work dude.

  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  A Bible contradiction?

  by uncle_onion in

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  another book i am reading called "the jesus mysteries" makes this claim:.

  "according to matthew, jesus is born in the reign of herod, who tries to have him killed as a baby to prevent him becoming king of the jews.

  herod who died in 4bce.........luke makes a similar point of having his jesus born 10 years later at the time of the census of 6ce.".

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  Hey JanH:

  In your rendition of that account if you're being technical, then yes Jesus was wrong in that he didn't quote the scripture verbatim. But he did paraphase it quite nicly and took in to account what anyone who reads the text could naturally infer. For instance though David was alone when he approached the Priest it's obvious that he was seeking to procure some sustenance for others whom he would meet later as he indicated. Otherwise why would he ask for five loaves of bread? Also the priest to indicated that althought they were not present that David was in fact with others because he gave the bread under the stipulation that the men had not slept with any women.

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  Want to help my JW friend

  by wannahelp in

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  i'm new here, and i want to make it clear upfront that i am not, nor have i ever been a jw.

  in fact, until recently i didn't know much about jw's.

  but i do have a question that i hope both jw's and ex-jw's will try and answer for me... about 10 months ago, i hired a 20 year old to work for me.. i hired him because he seemed very loyal, ethical, sincere, hardworking and honest.

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  Hey Wanna:

  It's great to see somebody like you earnestly trying to help someone who you percieve to be a lost soul. However i think that you should stop looking at this as a rescue operation. Your friend must decide for himself what he wants to do with his life. If you have discussed everything that you have with him then he already has plenty to chew on. Give him time. He already is rooted into this organization and that is why he is apprehensive about leaving. Despite what he confides in you you should realize that he may be thinking he is leading a double life. Any conscientious witness would. Especially so if he has the qualities you said he does. I know this probably very frustrating to you but think about him and what he must going through. He needs a friend, someone who will show him uconditional love. Just be there whenever he needs you and in due time he'll make a decision that is appropiate to his own circumstances.

  Peace,
  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  Is the WTBTS racist?

  by esther in

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  in australia there are separate congregations for aboriginal witnesses.

  the official line is that the nonwitness aboriginals are more responsive to other aboriginals.

  that may be so, but that doesn't mean that they should be kept separate for meetings.

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  Hey all;

  The Wts has made racist statements in the past, or should i say have made statements that would almost certainly be termed racist today. But nowadays as a whole i do not consider Jws to be racist. Many of the people i met while a member were very kind and open. Down here in New Orleans many of the black and white friends have friendships that go back many many decades. So from my experience I cannot say that the WTS is racist or promotes racism.

  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  607-1914 being phased out?

  by Moxy in

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  years ago, when i first figured out the problems with the 607 chronology, i began to think that the society was mentioning the 7 times link to 1914 less and less in recent pubs.

  after all, the knowledge book gave it less space than the live forever book, and the fluffy require brochure doesnt mention it all.

  could it be, i wondered, that they are gradually phasing this teaching out?

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  Hey Moxy;

  I wouldn't be surprised if they are getting rid of these old teachings based on chronology. I think the WTS is attempting to become more mainstream. In the next 5 to ten yrs I think they will attempt to revamp most of their old teachings in favor of more mainstream interpretations.

  Peace:

  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  What Was I Thinking?

  by riz in

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  one of my regrets about my 20 year stint of jw-dom is that i got rid of a lot of my 'questionable' music.

  i have always loved all kinds of music, and i've been an avid collector for as long as i can remember.. some of the recordings i had i will probably never see again.

  i deeply regret my decision to get rid of some of my favorite items.

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  Hell Yeah Riz!

  Just after I was baptized in '96 I threw away like 60 cds. I listen to mostly hip-hop and R&B. It was rather disheartening to see that a lot of young witnesses listened to that type of music all the time. Needless to say now I'm rather pissed.

  Peace:
  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  Yeah Yeah I'm back

  by joelbear in

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  i couldn't stay away.

  i love you guys.. abaddon's and ldh's recent posts hit close enough to home that i decided to post again.. i think the selected memory and split personalities go hand in hand.. the selected memory helps keep the cult personality happy and gleaming no matter what damage the suppression does to the real human or the real human's family and friends.. a couple of years ago i was talking about my childhood with my parents and they both acted stunned when i said i was still angry with them because they didn't want me to go to college (i gave up several scholarship offers, etc.

  to become a pioneer and eventually go to bethel).

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  Hey Joel Welcome Back! I sorta knew you wouldn't stay away. There are plenty ppl here that read your posts and get a lot of positive energy from them. Being here in no way makes you a slave to the Tower. Instead it gives you the opportunity to help others set themselves free. Welcome back buddy!

  Peace:

  Bigboi

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.
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  "Aye Aye, Cap'n!" Bye Bye Sister.

  by Englishman in

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  up until yesterday i thought that jw's could only be df'd for marrying if they were not "scriturally free" to do so, that is, for example, if the jw's considered a persons marriage to be adulterous.. not so, however.. i spoke to my ex-wife yesterday, our first conversation in many, many years.

  she told me that she had been disfellowshipped for marrying, because her non-witness husband is a lieutenant in the royal navy.. apparantly, if you marry a non-dub you are just branded as weak and "unevenly yoked".

  if you marry someone in the armed forces, then you are out on your ear.. what a shower these dubs are!.

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  Englishman:

  That's strange man. I never heard of such a thing happenig really. not unles they had sex before the marriage or were married in a church or something. Then the charge would be apostasy i suppose. but just because you married guy in the military? That's crazy, but we are talking about jws now aren't we?

  "..... anyone who ignores everyday reality in order to live up to an ideal will soon discover he had been taught how to destroy himself, not how to preserve himself." The Prince. Niccolo Machiavelli.