Well, bottom line, I stand by what I said. The one at the center of this tragedy is Bethany, and if I'm a sad pathetic maggot of an asshole for thinking her wishes should have been respected, then anyone of you can judge me as harshly as you want.
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Parents ripped apart by religious interpretation
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Are boxer briefs gay???
by Elsewhere ini was just watching a sit-com and someone made a reference to boxer briefs as being a sign a guy is gay.
i like boxer briefs!
they are the best of both worlds... a combination of boxers and briefs.
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MungoBaobab
Boxer briefs are for male undergarments what Crisis of Conscience is for ex-JWs.
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Parents ripped apart by religious interpretation
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MungoBaobab
People have a right to believe what they want to believe. "Old men's ideas that have evolved over time to keep pace with governments" pretty much sums up the entirety of all religion everywhere, doesn't it? The girl was 17 years-old, well old enough to think for herself and make an informed decision. How old were you when you realized the JWs didn't have "the one true religion?" If the WTS's take on the use of blood is legalistic and impractical, so is the idea that maturity is magically bestowed upon a person at his or her 18th birthday. Consider this:
He says his victory means he can bring forth more evidence about the crucial treatment decisions made in Bethany's case, her final days, and expose the fact that his daughter did not really accept she must not have transfusions.
Basically, that's like saying she did have the right to decide on the transfusions, but only if she agreed to take them. Either her opinion has weight in the matter or it does not. Either she is a minor with no legal say in the matter or a mature human being with a right to her own body and beliefs. Is a 17 year-old's opinion only pertinent because the parents disagreed? If the parents were both against the transfusion, and the daughter wanted one, would the situation be different? If the parents both wanted her to have it done, and the child was against it, what then?
I only vaguely remember hearing about the case as it was happening, so all I can really comment on is what is presented in this article. But a young girl lying on a bed having tubes filled with bodily fluids inserted inside of her body against her will evokes strong rape imagery. Of course the father wanted what was best for his daughter, but look what he put her through! And for what? She still died! If she had lived, if she was a few years younger, everything would be different.
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Parents ripped apart by religious interpretation
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What a sick, selfish man. He is the one that robbed his daughter of her dignity. Robbed her of a peaceful death. Violated her body with a medical treatment she didn't want. Shame on him. I understand the emotional circumstances were high. Maybe he thought he could bite the spiritual bullet by incuring God's wrath on himself, meanwhile sparing his daughter's life now and into the New System. Maybe he had doubts for years and in this crisis he refused to let his daughter die for something he knew to be false. But she was old enough to make up her own mind, and the fact that Bethany fought every step of the way up to and including tearing the tubes from her arms speaks volumes for her courage and devotion. Hughes thought his daughter's religion was robbing her of her life. Instead, he robbed her of her death.
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Youngest Known Disfellowshipping?
by Taylor S. inhey guys ... what the youngest known case of disfellowshipping?
and what's the story behind it if you know?.
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MungoBaobab
I can't understand all these late-teen JWs dating 14 year old girls. Hell, when I was 14 I didn't want to screw a 14 year old! I always liked twentysomethings, anything much younger is just sick.
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Bill Maher mentioned JW's on his show last night
by Mulan inreal time with bill maher plays on hbo throughout the week.
the new show was on last night, and during the discussion, he started in on religion and talked about jehovah's witnesses and michael jackson's upbringing, including no birthday celebrations.
try to catch it, if you can.
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MungoBaobab
Eh, for those of us without HBO, can you go into a little more detail? I strongly admire Maher for contesting the puerile belittling of the 9/11 hijackers by pundits in admitting their heinous act was in fact the opposite of "cowardly." Here is a man unafraid to speak the truth. Although I don't always agree with his views, I'd like to know what was said.
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The pope
by Stromboli inthe pope was admitted to hospital and on the national tv (rai) they were saying that he has an entire apartment right in the h just for himself, not only that but the room just below was emptied just to avoid noise for him.
unbelivable!
recently a man in italy died because the ambulance could not find a bed for him in a hospital so by the time they arrived to the one bed that was available 200kms away he was dead.
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MungoBaobab
One of the single strongest advocates for social justice in the world, currently, is dying in the hospital... and you fools call him a relic.
Yeah, well the Governing Body tells you to love your neighbor and pay your taxes, too. They don't live half as high on the hog as the Pope, either. Not even a quarter as high on the hog.
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The Myth of Unconditional Love
by frankiespeakin in.
i here this a lot all the time.
i think it is one huge myth,,based on a self-biased view.
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MungoBaobab
A dog's love is not unconditional. Give it a chance to live among its own kind and it'll go Call of the Wild on your ass faster than you can say "Jack London." There is also no universal unconditional love between a parent and child, else there would be no deadbeat dads, no abandoned babies, and dare I say it, no abortions.
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Is it appropriate for a jw to say these things
by ayo ini am sorry, i am not a jw, but i have a freind who is.
i am a female.
i respect your rules etc.
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MungoBaobab
Well, what can I say, rwagoner? Dating and/or marrying a non-Witness is not grounds for disfellowship, at least not anymore. The idea behind it is that having non-marital sex is worse than marrying an unbeliever. According to SOP your elders had no right to threaten you with being disfellowshipped. It was a legal loophole I was eager to exploit, and I knew I could get away with it.
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Yeah, but the idea of the Holy Grail as a utensil that dispenses eternal life isn't that far from the idea of ambrosia, which I suppose, is very much like the tree of life mentioned in the Genesis account. Then the story gets told again as the fountain of youth. You can find echoes of pagan religion anywhere you want to, and the WTS finds them anwhere they want.