A Mormon, a Jehovah's Witness, and a Catholic are sitting around discussing religion? Sounds like the start of a joke to me! Let's see, how can we end it? They all get in a big fight over whose religion is correct, the Witness says "If you don't believe in my religion you can drop dead!" while the other two say to eachother "And you can go to hell!"
MungoBaobab
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Need help in discussing the blood issue with some friends.........
by MarkAnthony ini got into a debate with 2 other friends (one a mormon and the other jw, i'm rc) about the blood transfusion issue.
the jw friend cited: genesis 9:4,16 leviticus 7:26,27 & 17:14 acts 15:28,29 & 21:25
i cannot for the life of me see how anyone can read those and honestly beleve that what was ment was to reject blood to save life!
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Why Do You or Don't You Believe In The Bible?
by minimus indo you believe in the bible just because you were raised to believe?
are you sure it's "believable"?
.....have you convinced yourself the bible is just another book?
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MungoBaobab
Don't you know? The Bible is a unique book. Unlike the Greeks, Romans, Egyptians, Hindus, Native Americans, and Norse tribes, it just so happens that every piece of folklore the Ancient Hebrews and Isrealites had was 100% factual. And even though all of these other groups claimed to be God's chosen people, it really was the Jews.
Don't you know? Secular History agrees with the Bible. King Belshazzar of Babylon was once thought to be a myth invented by Bible writers, until archaeologists proved he lived. That proves every last detail from the Bible is correct, although the discovery of Troy doesn't prove everything from Greek mythology is true.
Don't you know? Scientists found a woolly mammoth in Siberia that died with food in its mouth. That proves the story of the Flood, even if there's not a shred of geological evidence anywhere else in the world and the woolly mammoth story doesn't even make sense.
Don't you know? I think the Bible is a joke!
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NWT Sighting on American Idol: UPDATE
by MungoBaobab ini remember this caused quite a stir a few weeks ago.
for those that don't remember, during a quickly-edited montage on american idol a woman appeared to be holding a copy of the new world translation.
well on tonight's episode it seems this was the mother of a girl named a'ashia ("asia").
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MungoBaobab
I remember this caused quite a stir a few weeks ago. For those that don't remember, during a quickly-edited montage on American Idol a woman appeared to be holding a copy of the New World Translation.
Well on tonight's episode it seems this was the mother of a girl named A'ashia ("Asia"). This woman was indeed holding a Bible, but we never do get to see the front of it. It had tabs marking off the different books, but Dubs add these all the time. The thing is the daughter had cornrows and even the mother had quite the ghetto attitude, so even if it was the NWT these two are not your bread-and-butter Dubs.
Anyone else see it? Opinions?
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The old "in the days of Noah" guilt trip refuted
by Ticker inok here goes again grrr i had started posting this before and finished it but a dang phonecall screwed it up and it didnt post, frustrating.
oh well heres take 2 lol.
i wanted to bring this up and show in my opinion a solid refutiation to the watchtowers reasoning of "in noahs day all were destroyed even children because of their parents".
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MungoBaobab
Ticker, how do you then explain the fact that the god of the Bible routinely slaughters innocent children for the sins of their parents? While you bring up the fact that the BIble claims God killed every living thing at the Flood, you then attack the Witnesses for judging people. While we know this is true, and you do make some very vaild points, none of these reconcille the issue of God killing innocent children. Frankly, the god of the Bible has killed so many children for the sins of their parents that we can establish a fairly predictable pattern of behavior: if you're a kid, and your parent pisses off Jehovah, you're about to be pissed on by Jehovah.
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Do Jehovah's Witnesses believe in God?
by Gill inif they did they would not feel the need for things like judicial committees.
they'd leave it to god who supposedly can see all to judge peoples heart condition.
i remember a young sister who left home and went to live with her boyfriend.
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MungoBaobab
<----This one sure doesn't!
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I am getting that Crisis of Conscience book
by inquirer ini am going to read this think you know.
a ex-bethelite (i've never been keen on jw titles!
) he should provide me with a lot of interesting information!
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MungoBaobab
With those kinds of presentations, placements might just increase!
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I am getting that Crisis of Conscience book
by inquirer ini am going to read this think you know.
a ex-bethelite (i've never been keen on jw titles!
) he should provide me with a lot of interesting information!
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MungoBaobab
Franz raises some interesting issues in the book, but take everything he says with a grain of salt. He comes off as a little self-centered. For example, he makes statements to the contrary, but to me he seemed to take little responsibility for Witness beliefs and practices even though he sat on the Governing Body for years. Look for a passage in which he criticizes himself, because I doubt you'll find one. Then he blasts the Governing Body for never admitting their mistakes. He seeks sympathy from the reader and sought sympathy from the Governing Body when he was being disfellowshipped after decades of service to God (and the Organization), yet rather harshly states that his uncle's decades of service will mean nothing to God when he faces judgement. That's blatant hypocrisy, and I feel it damages his credibility. Nevertheless, I do highly recommend the book; it contains a treasure trove of information from a unique source. Still, I wouldn't read In Search of Christian Freedom.
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What's the worst Witness meeting of the week?
by inquirer in(this question does not include the field service one.
the little introduction and then the preaching after it.
when i went, i thought the most useless meeting was that kingdom ministry meeting.
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MungoBaobab
Definitely the Service Meeting. I agree that the Ministry School is actually useful (to us guys, at least) in developing public speaking skills. It's also broken down into such short increments it's hard to get bored. Some people have "interesting" comments during the Watchtower Study, and by interesting I mean you can see just how messed up they are in the head. Public Talk, you can get a good speaker. Bookstudy kind of creeps me out. You get all the "interesting" opinions like the Watchtower Study but you have to look everyone in the eye.
But the Service Meeting... Good Lord. So the Greatest Man book is now available in Urdu? So Brother Kiss-Ass got laid off again and is auxillary pioneering. So all I hae to do is stick to the lame script on the back of the KM and people will just gobble up every last magazine without question. The only remotely stimulating part is the local needs part, because it's not often you see a room full of JWs admonished for being the assholes you know they are!
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Refusing magazines/books from JW relatives
by JustTickledPink inrecently my mother dropped in on us and in front of other people, very nicely handed me some trinkets aka dust collectors for my house and some wts magazines.
the way she handed everything to me at once i just held out my hands and took it all.. i threw the magazines away immediately, i consider them trash and don't even want them around... but then decided exactly what i was going to do.
i am going to buy a yard sale cross or virgin mary statue and give it to my mom.. i specifically told her i don't want any publications and she slipped them in anyways.... so, on that note, she hates any religious icons, i am going to give her something that she doesn't want.
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MungoBaobab
So much for "blessed are the peacemakers."
That's no way to treat your mother, regardless of her guile.
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How old do the Witnesses say the earth is?
by JH in.
we all know that the witnesses say that adam would be a little over 6000 years old.
they use the bible to back that up.. how old do they say the earth is, and what would they use to back that up?.
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MungoBaobab
To quote Paragraph 7, Page 27 of the Creation book, "It would seem reasonable that the 'days' of Genesis could likewise have embraced long periods of time- milleniums." The Society teaches "Old Earth Creationism," the idea that life may be billions of years old as scientists say, but that mankind has existed since the time of Adam 6,000 years ago.
Oddly enough, however, few Witnesses of my acqaintance understand or believe this, and hold that the six days were just that.