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  Ritsfield Victory!

  by silentlambs in

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  hello everyone,.

  i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.

  that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila

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  Billygoat

  Hi waiting,

  I guess the "authority" that you're asking about is my own authority from my personal experience. Having had the experience that I've had, it's very difficult when someone tells me to "get over it" or to "grow up" and "move beyond" the rape. Yes, I've been working to do that, but I think it totally unfair for someone to ask someone to NOT get emotionally charged when they haven't experienced it themselves.

  I agree, it probably is open to opinions. That is why I gave mine. Why do you ask?

  Andi
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  Ritsfield Victory!

  by silentlambs in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  hello everyone,.

  i am bill's wife.he just called me from washington and told me to let you all know that erica won her case today!.

  that sick child molesting bastard is in jail now as we speak.. his sentencing is set for september 24th i think.. one down many more to go.. thanks to all who have supported this cause.. sheila

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  Billygoat

  Waaahooo!!!

  Bill - how is Erica doing??? I know that this in no way is closure for her, but perhaps aiding her in the road to recovery? Thank you a million times over for helping the lambs voice themselves! I'm a recovering rape victim myself (although not from someone in the WTS) and this victory helps aid in MY recovery. You are a true blessing to many of us!!!

  Wendy - I am APPALLED that you think a pedofile or a rapist has made a "mistake". Have you ever been a victim of a sexual crime? If you have, then you would KNOW without QUESTION, that pedophilia and rape are NOT "mistakes". What does a pedophiliac say? "Oops! I molested another kid today. I've gotta quit doin' that." Or maybe they say, "Dang! I raped that girl! Man I gotta quit." That viewpoint makes me physically ill!!! I'm going to repost something I posted last week:

  You simply cannot ask victims of abuse or people who have loved ones that have experienced abuse to NOT be emotional about it.

  Unless you have personally experienced someone of an authority figure, pulling on your clothes, forcing kisses onto your mouth, breathing their hot breath onto your neck, touching your genitals, forcing their bodily fluids into you, and THEN telling you to keep it a secret - you have no right to call any of this issue "sick".

  Andi
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  for ex-jw's

  by sunny444 in

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  bye!!!!!!!

  and thanks to all of you.

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  Billygoat

  Sunny,

  Welcome! I'm glad you're here and hope you keep coming back! I'm proud of you for not shunning your sister. I know there are many JW's in this world that would do well to follow your footsteps, but at the same time I understand why they do it. But if they did stop shunning, there wouldn't be so many broken families! I'm looking forward to hearing more from you!

  Andi
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  BIBLE - Inspired Word of God?

  by Billygoat in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i may be asking a question that's already been addressed on another thread.

  if so, kindly redirect me.

  i read this post on another thread, which made me ask a question.

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  Billygoat

  Thank you everybody for your comments. I am currently attending a Protestant church that encourages questioning like this, but they can't always provide the answers. I don't expect them to. They're mine to find. I love the fact that I am "allowed" to just question. Pretty wonderful! But your viewpoints and opinions are awesome to hear. Some things I never thought about.

  Jelly - I like your simplistic explanation. I have a tendency to complicate things!

  Francois - that was the EXACT scripture that I was thinking about! Thank you for your words!

  Andi - still searching...and questioning...
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  any GOBSMACKING meetings ???????

  by alliwannadoislive in

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  2. friends

  was thinking about poor old brother who just stopped talking whilst giving a public talk ... went all quiet, then just keeled over ... gobsmacking moment it was - flurry of activity, fire doors flung wide open to get air to him - tie loosened - ambulance called - rushed to hospital - was okay - watchtower study brought forward - over-ran would you believe (was hoping to get away earlier) - excitement enough for one day though .... c'mon - lets hear about your audacious, breathtaking, heart-stopping, gobsmacking moments ??????????????????

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  I heard of a pioneer sister who fainted whilst being interviewed by an elder at the service meeting. He had a reputation for being an old, crusty, boring speaker. She was part of a panel of pioneers being interviewed, but the elder seemed to be droning on not really interviewing. She was standing there and before you know she fell right off the stage. Brothers rushed to her as she crumpled to the floor. When she came to, someone asked her, "Are you alright?" The elder still had a lapel mike on and and the whole congregation heard her say, "Yes, I'm fine. Fell asleep out of boredom I guess." The whole congregation was aghast!

  I personally would have been laughing my little head off!

  Andi
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  BIBLE - Inspired Word of God?

  by Billygoat in

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  i may be asking a question that's already been addressed on another thread.

  if so, kindly redirect me.

  i read this post on another thread, which made me ask a question.

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  Billygoat

  I may be asking a question that's already been addressed on another thread. If so, kindly redirect me. I read this post on another thread, which made me ask a question. Here is the quote...

  The bible will never make sense, or provide answers. It doesn't have any.

  I have always believed that The Bible was a manmade piece of literature, but the writers were inspired by God. I believed that when I was a JW and even now when I'm no longer a JW. So my question is born out of curiosity for others opinions - it's not to debate or trick anyone.

  Who says the Bible was to provide answers?

  As I get older I am beginning to look at it as a tool that asks the questions. Not a tool to provide the answers. I just feel that it's up to us to come up with the answers according to our individual conscience. What do you think???

  Andi
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  Stones - or should I say, the lack of them.

  by ChuckD in

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  ever notice how the folks who are the most prone to lob an insult or accusation over the fence are also those who hide behind a closely guarded psudonym while online?

  and, the majority of their barbs are aimed at those of us who are comfortable enough to be here as ourselves, using our real names.

  i know that there are many folks who use psudonyms to protect their identity from those within the organization whould would rat them out to the brooklyn feds, but many others just like to hide behind a facade and shoot their slings and arrows from far offstage.

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  Of course there have been changes, we are a progressive organization. We progress, and progress, degress, then double-progress ...

  BWAHAHAHAHA!!! Wishy-washy is more like it!

  Andi
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  Kevin Metcalf, JW and counterfeiter

  by Kent in

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  alejandro n. mayorkas .

  united states attorney .

  central district of california .

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  Billygoat

  Quoting Moxy...

  i had this exact experience myself some years ago. i might have been spared much pain otherwise

  I'm reposting something I posted yesterday...

  They attack the person instead of the facts. I've not known Kent that long, but noticed right away his tongue-in-cheek and sometimes downright vulgar humor. I'm sure it shocks the sensibilities (of some whom have already posted above) but they are just like the JW's who won't listen to a message because the delivery doesn't suit their desires. They refuse to get out of the JW mentality that if everything isn't Pollyanna perfect in the delivery, then it must be garbage. Whether there's truth to the message or not doesn't even matter. If someone looks at this site and judges within a few posts/hours/days that things are too volatile here, they they are cowards. They don't want to address the fact that truth sometimes hurts and truth isn't always presented in gold wrapping paper with a tulle ribbon. Anybody with ANY life experience knows that.

  My point being - since when are WE expected to help people make a decision about being a JW or not? Each person much figure that out on their own. I personally don't want the responsibility of it. If I can help that's great, but the person has to be willing to WORK to get the answer.

  Here is another quote I posted earlier today:

  Take posting on this board for example. Kent posts an article with his usual "colorful" style. Yes, they are laced with profanities, BOLD LETTERS, exclamation points and sometimes rudeness. My first question after reading it is, "What is the message? What are the FACTS that he is trying to convey to me?"

  Other questions I ask myself:

  Am I the only one involved in this situation?
  If not, how are others affected?
  What are others reactions to this situation?
  What is their perspective?
  Why are they reacting that way?
  What is in their background to form their opinion?
  Is the delivery of a message skewed because of their personal opinion?
  Does my opinion matter?
  Am I giving it to share a differing perspective or am I doing it just to stir the pot?

  Maybe if people would ask themselves these questions when it comes to ANY situation, they would spare THEMSELVES their own pain. Why rely on others to spare it for them? Jumping to conclusions and forming opinions too quickly always makes people lose out on things!

  Andi

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  Kent - the Norwegian Asshole!

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you never met anyone quite like me, did you?

  crazy, vulgar, dont give a damn, sarcastic, poisonous, happy, joyful, considerate, loving - all in one person.

  i have to admit i find it rather amusing to see many v in my opinion v absolutely hysterically funny attempts to explain me, to figure out who i am v or what are my intentions.

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  Billygoat

  ((DANA))

  Check you email...

  Andi
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  Kent - the Norwegian Asshole!

  by Kent in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  you never met anyone quite like me, did you?

  crazy, vulgar, dont give a damn, sarcastic, poisonous, happy, joyful, considerate, loving - all in one person.

  i have to admit i find it rather amusing to see many v in my opinion v absolutely hysterically funny attempts to explain me, to figure out who i am v or what are my intentions.

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  Billygoat

  I do say what I think is the fact, and I don't wrap my words in 200 layers of cotton.

  Perhaps he was talking about me? Maybe I should work on being a little more direct and not worry so much about what people think?

  Andi