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  If it was legal, would you have more then one spouse?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  often what we accept in society, is based on how and where we were raised.

  for example, in some countries it is okay to have more then one spouse and arranged marriages are how you marry.

  often we take these examples, and others that happen elsewhere, and label them as just wrong.

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  Billygoat

  When ones not in the mood...

  Please tell me, WHEN does this happen??? LOL!
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  Richie's Elders: Deaf? Dumb? Both?

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let me preface this by saying that i in now way mean to insult to the deaf/mute community by comparing them to leaders of a very prevalent cult, the jehovah's witnesses.

  you see, in the service meeting last night, there was a talk based on an article in the january 2006 our kingdom ministry entitled "young ones: shining as illuminaters".

  the brother who gave this part is my book study overseer, and a member of the "richie taskforce", i.e.

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  Billygoat

  Does the fact that the Watchtower lied to you, give you the right to mislead others in the congregation?

  Although I understand this logic, in this situation, it's not appropriate. We're talking about people that have rules that apply to everyone but themselves. It's one of those situations where you must fight fire with fire in order to preserve yourself.

  Do I believe that war is the best answer in every situation? Of course not. But when it comes to terrorists, it's the only way to eradicate the behavior. Reasoning and discussion is not an option. And I believe with every ounce of my being that the bOrg is full of religious terrorists. You do what you need to do to preserve yourself, not them.

  Just my two cents...
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  Richie's Elders: Deaf? Dumb? Both?

  by RichieRich in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let me preface this by saying that i in now way mean to insult to the deaf/mute community by comparing them to leaders of a very prevalent cult, the jehovah's witnesses.

  you see, in the service meeting last night, there was a talk based on an article in the january 2006 our kingdom ministry entitled "young ones: shining as illuminaters".

  the brother who gave this part is my book study overseer, and a member of the "richie taskforce", i.e.

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  Billygoat

  Nina,

  He's a 17 year old kid caught in a cult. He has no control over where he came from and how he's being treated. Do you expect him to tow the party line at his age, when it's so obviously wrong? What do you expect him to do to stay sane? Not being a smart@$$, but truly curious about your opinion.

  Andi
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  If it was legal, would you have more then one spouse?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  often what we accept in society, is based on how and where we were raised.

  for example, in some countries it is okay to have more then one spouse and arranged marriages are how you marry.

  often we take these examples, and others that happen elsewhere, and label them as just wrong.

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  Billygoat

  http://www.cwluherstory.com/CWLUArchive/wantawife.html

  Why I Want a Wife by Judy Syfers (1971)
  
  (Editors Note: This classic piece of feminist humor appeared in the premier issue of Ms. Magazine and was widely circulated in the women's movement.)

  I belong to that classification of people known as wives. I am A Wife.

  And, not altogether incidentally, I am a mother. Not too long ago a male friend of mine appeared on the scene fresh from a recent divorce. He had one child, who is, of course, with his ex-wife. He is looking for another wife. As I thought about him while I was ironing one evening, it suddenly occurred to me that I too, would like to have a wife. Why do I want a wife?

  I would like to go back to school so that I can become economically independent, support myself, and if need be, support those dependent upon me. I want a wife who will work and send me to school. And while I am going to school I want a wife to take care of my children. I want a wife a wife to keep track of the children's doctor and dentist appointments. And to keep track of mine, too. I want a wife to make sure my children eat properly and are kept clean. I want a wife who will wash the children's clothes and keep them mended. I want a wife who is a good nurturing attendant to my children, who arranges for their schooling, makes sure that they have an adequate social life with their peers, takes them to the park, the zoo, etc. I want a wife who takes care of the children when they are sick, a wife who arranges to be around when the children need special care, because, of course, I cannot miss classes at school. My wife must arrange to lose time at work and not lose the job. It may mean a small cut in my wife's income from time to time, but I guess I can tolerate that. Needless to say, my wife will arrange and pay for the care of the children while my wife is working.

  I want a wife who will take care of my physical needs. I want a wife who will keep my house clean. A wife who will pick up after my children, a wife who will pick up after me. I want a wife who will keep my clothes clean, ironed, mended, replaced when need be, and who will see to it that my personal things are kept in their proper place so that I can find what I need the minute I need it. I want a wife who cooks the meals, a wife who is a good cook. I want a wife who will plan the menus, do the necessary grocery shopping, prepare the meals,serve them pleasantly, and then do the cleaning up while I do my studying. I want a wife who will care for me when I am sick and sympathize with my pain and loss of time from school. I want a wife to go along when our family takes a vacation so that someone can continue care for me and my when I need a rest and change of scene. I want a wife who will not bother me with rambling complaints about a wife's duties. But I want a wife who will listen to me when I feel the need to explain a rather difficult point I have come across in my course of studies. And I want a wife who will type my papers for me when I have written them.

  I want a wife who will take care of the details of my social life. When my wife and I are invited out by my friends, I want a wife who take care of the baby-sitting arrangements. When I meet people at school that I like and want to entertain, I want a wife who will have the house clean, will prepare a special meal, serve it to me and my friends, and not interrupt when I talk about things that interest me and my friends. I want a wife who will have arranged that the children are fed and ready for bed before my guests arrive so that the children do not bother us. I want a wife who takes care of the needs of my quests so that they feel comfortable, who makes sure that they have an ashtray, that they are passed the hors d'oeuvres, that they are offered a second helping of the food, that their wine glasses are replenished when necessary, that their coffee is served to them as they like it. And I want a wife who knows that sometimes I need a night out by myself.

  I want a wife who is sensitive to my sexual needs, a wife who makes love passionately and eagerly when I feel like it, a wife who makes sure that I am satisfied. And, of course, I want a wife who will not demand sexual attention when I am not in the mood for it. I want a wife who assumes the complete responsibility for birth control, because I do not want more children. I want a wife who will remain sexually faithful to me so that I do not have to clutter up my intellectual life with jealousies. And I want a wife who understands that my sexual needs may entail more than strict adherence to monogamy. I must, after all, be able to relate to people as fully as possible.

  If, by chance, I find another person more suitable as a wife than the wife I already have, I want the liberty to replace my present wife with another one. Naturally, I will expect a fresh, new life; my wife will take the children and be solely responsible for them so that I am left free.

  When I am through with school and have a job, I want my wife to quit working and remain at home so that my wife can more fully and completely take care of a wife's duties.

  My God, who wouldn't want a wife?

  ************

  This might be a little funnier if it weren't so true!!!
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  If it was legal, would you have more then one spouse?

  by free2beme in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  often what we accept in society, is based on how and where we were raised.

  for example, in some countries it is okay to have more then one spouse and arranged marriages are how you marry.

  often we take these examples, and others that happen elsewhere, and label them as just wrong.

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  Billygoat

  If it was legal, would you have more then one spouse?

  Good god no. I can barely keep up with the one I have. But if he were to have more than one wife, I can't say I'd handle that too well either. I'm not good at sharing.

  As for arranged marriages, I do believe they work in some cultures. It's the norm. Getting married isn't about being in love. It's a business transaction mutually beneficial for both families. I'm not saying it's right, but I'm just saying if the parties don't know anything else, is it really that bad for them?
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  Marriage - Why bother?

  by Spectrum in

  1. social
  2. relationships

  yet another friend's marriage has broken down(5th), this one i did not predict at all.

  it came as a shock to me.

  they got married after 10 years of living together so it's not like they didn't know each other.

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  I think that it's just too easy to get married and divorced in our society. I think if it were harder to get married, you'd stop to think about whether or not you really want to do it. And I think getting divorced is too easy as well. If it were hell to go through, then maybe people would stop and think about getting married in the first place.

  Mozz and I don't even mention divorce, even in our worst fights. It's off limits; not up for discussion; not even an option.
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  my letter to my dad. what do you think?

  by freedomlover in

  1. jw
  2. experiences

  hey you all.

  well finally got the courage to put this all down on paper for my dad.

  if you want to read it and give me any feedback i'd truly appreciate it.

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  Billygoat

  ((((Freedomlover)))))

  I wish you the best. Lovely letter!

  Andi
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  Which Church do I go to now?

  by jwfacts in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i personally feel no particular need for institutionalised religion, but recognise it is a benefit to many people.

  however i am constantly asked, "where do i go to now?

  what is the best answer to give someone?

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  Billygoat

  jwfacts,

  Like so many others said, the great position you're in now allows you freedom of choice. One thing I might warn you about though is don't fight about doctrine right off the bat. Don't necessarily try to find a church that does or does not believe in the Trinity or Hellfire or whatever. Look for churches that live by the two rules that Christ laid out, "Love God, Love your neighbor". I think you'll be surprised at how many good churches there are out there that focus on that and not doctrine. You don't HAVE to believe in everything a particular religion believes. It's not black and white, all or nothing like JWs were. Should you happen to enter a church and discover that, then I say turn around, walk out the door, and find another church. I had to do a little church shopping myself to find what I was looking for.

  I wish you the best!

  Andi
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  The WTS is gaining more from the Latino community but not holding onto them

  by Elsewhere in

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  2. friends

  the wts is having a very hard time getting english speaking people to join their ranks, so they are now targeting other language groups.

  right now they can find good things.

  so people can find good things.

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  2. We're a lazy bunch .... :D

  Why is this? Is it a cultural thing? I grew up in an Asian household and predominantly Asian community. Being relaxed and lazy (even on Sunday afternoons!) was never acceptable. There was always something to do or study for or someone to visit with. Why is the Latin culture so different than the Asian culture?
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  Are You Allergic To Anything?

  by Legolas in

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  2. friends

  i am allergic to beer...after about 15 i start to through up!

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  Billygoat

  Wheat, rye, oats, barley, sulpha drugs, some dogs and JWs.