Welcome back Lisa! Can't say I'll ever look at spaghetti the same from here on out. Glad you had a good time though!
Billygoat
aaarrrrggghhhh what can i say?
a week of sun and not thinking about anything was heavenly.
i thought i'd share a couple of experiences with yas...... when we left fresno, i had somehow mixed up our departure time (chalk it up to pregnancy; i've never done that before) on american west.
Welcome back Lisa! Can't say I'll ever look at spaghetti the same from here on out. Glad you had a good time though!
Billygoat
we the aforementioned apostates do hereby serve notice.
we want you to change the name of your organization.
we the people of this board, have suggestions for you.. 1. watchtower bible and lie society.
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"Josyphilis"
BWAHAHAHAHAHA! Too funny!
Joey - why are you here if you don't like these posts??? Go somewhere else if you don't like it.
Billygoat
great balls of fire!.
this little diddy will be my 3,000th post.. quoting my husband when he finally read a post by me (i made him, btw.
) "2,450 posts!
Congrats waiting you ol' windbag you! Just kidding!
Billygoat
disassociating yourself slowly or quickly is a matter of perspective; think about it: you lose either way, i.e.
the witnesses will treat you like you've become part of the "bodysnatchers" of the world and no matter how you rationalize it, there is no honorable way out in the eyes of the witnesses.. i was df'd about 1.5 years ago (as they said that i left the organization so it was entirely my fault, but little do they know that their organization left me, as i appealed the gb's decision), and the sudden break-off of family and friends in the truth is always devastating to say the least - it's an emotional explosion which in your wildest dreams would normally never ever happen....i can now understand what death means, at least in the beginning....yes i was dead though living - even though when i went back to the meetings afterwards, i could feel the lonely emptiness, the non-existence of myself.
yet when by accident i would be gazing straight into the eyes of one of my (former) friends, he would just stare past me as if i didn't exist at all even though i attempted to smile at him in indicating respect to him....how convenient for them to ignore a fellow friend and instead make me feel like the lowest person on earth - but then..of course they were taught to respond in this manner to anyone who is df'd.... then i though to myself...what would happen when eventually i would be re-instated: yes, then after the announcement most would want to see me at the end of the meeting all happy and oh so loving and wanting to be my best friend all over again - in a heartbeat they'll change from zombies to angelic like mortal creatures of love.... for this very reason i cannot return to the meetings in the hope of wanting to be re-instated and have this hypocrisy again heaped upon me like tentacles.
Richie,
My heart goes out to you! So many people have lost so much from their JW experience. Myself being one of them. I understand the loss of family, friends, childhood, dreams, aspirations, etc. It's taken me years to finally trust my own judgement and to trust God again. I'm sorry to hear that you've been through what I've been through. My prayers are with you!
Billygoat
here is a question for those who are either df'd or da'd.
what do you do when you run into a jw at the store ?
do you turn your head and pretend you didn't see them ?
I've yet to run into any old friends from old congregations. I've moved so I doubt that I will. But should it happen, I really think I will do what they least expect - kill 'em with kindness. I think ignoring them and being rude to them is just stooping to their level. If they go out of their way to ignore me - I'll go out of my way to be nice. They may not see it now, but one of these days, they will remember that I didn't shun them or treat them as evil. They were the ones with un-Christian attitudes. Being bitter and rude does nobody any good.
Billygoat
so um what is a newbie and why did i suddenly become one???
oh well guess i've been called worse.
so i'm new here checked it out for a couple of days though.
Hi Chainsaw!
Welcome to the board! I'm sorry to hear that things are a little difficult on the home front right now. And well...if they aren't - they probably will be soon. JW and Non-JW relationships are difficult at best. Trust me. I was on your boyfriend's end of the line about 10 years ago.
You will find this board to be enlightening and interesting. I love it hear. I learn information about current JW life and I learn to practice compassion. You'll meet many that have tragic stories to tell. I hope you stick around. You'll be blessed 10 times over!
Billygoat
originally posted at www.theonion.com:.
troubled?
of course i'm troubled.
LOL!
Billygoat
the story below describes a case we are looking into.
if you know of any elders or former elders who have any knowledge whatsoever of this case please have them contact me through email.. silentlambs.
march 16, 1998 .
I wonder where he is serving as an elder now?
Billygoat
what if you as an unaffiliated christian went to a pastor, elder, or apostle of a church and after his service you went up to him and said, im one of those unaffiliated christians.. what would his reaction be?.
would he look very startled?.
would he even view us as a real christian?.
I am currently affiliated with a Protestant church. Part of the reason I fell in love with it, was because they didn't care that I had been out of touch with God for so long. All that mattered was that I wanted to renew that relationship and they wanted to help me. I remember my pastor telling me how he thought with my background as a JW, that I would bring a fresh perspective to the congregation. He obviously wanted me there and wanted to feed me spiritually AND he wanted me to get back on my feet, so I could give back to others.
Billygoat
has anyone else heard of the org.
convincing couples not to have children since this world is so "evil" and armagedon was coming so soon and why not wait until after it is over?.
many new couples were told this and those families that kept conceiving were talked about behind their backs.... daisy
I do remember that people were encouraged not to have children. But I can't say I know of anyone that was looked down upon for conceiving. Ray Franz said in his book "Crisis of Conscience" that his generation was encouraged to NOT marry. That they should focus their time on Ministry.
Billygoat