Posts by formerout

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APOSTATES SLOGAN------------------

by vitty in

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-----------someone was going to an assembly to picket, and asked you to write an slogan which would really make a witness think or question what would you write?

formerout

i was a jw for 40 years and all i got is this lousy sign.

candidlynuts, Another great one. I love it. Brad

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tired of waiting for armageddon

by embeth2525 in

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friends

i am really tired of waiting for the other side of armageddon to feel better.

i have'nt felt very well for years, with fibromyalgia and depression and other things.

my friend who is a baptised jw tells me the only way we will ever feel any better is to wait for the other side of armageddon.

formerout

Beth,

I agree with your choice to cure yourself naturally rather than waiting for Armageddon. A wise choice indeed.

Even our mental outlook on life can make such a great improvement in our energy etc. So, you're going the right way with that one too.

Brad

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I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

by Peterpanippleskin in

jw
friends

first of all, i am not a jw and i never will be, for my own reasons that i need not discuss further.

however, i have a brother who is a jw and there is a serious problem that he is struggling with, which pertains to his horrible marriage, abusive wife, divorce and being "kicked out" of jw as a member... or whatever jw's call it.

he has been married to a woman for 22 years.

formerout

Satanus,

Why would peter have such a high iq, and his brother be so stupid?
S

I hope eman doesn't jump all over me for this, but I have a high IQ as well and I had people asking why I was so stupid to stay with my abusive ex for so many years. Intelligence, on an IQ scale, has very little to do with how "smartly" someone deals with life in general.

I try to explain it as, "I'm intelligent. I'm just not very smart." I think that may be what Peter meant when he said it's good and bad. Eman, What you were referring to about Peter, is it the "going over to Slippy's", (whatever that is) that Wednesday was talking about? I can be a little more naive than some people but I also hope that Peter, if he is genuine, did not think that he was getting any good advice here by being falsely accused of being a troll or whatever by others. Brad

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Xandria esp. and Shakita, jgnat, Narkissos and others - advice appreciated

by formerout in

i have followed mario's tragic story from the beginning.

especially in this last battle he is in i have respected very much all your advice to him, especially xandria, who seems to have people at her availability with a lot of experience in this field.. mario is certainly dealing with it very well.

what i liked mostly about all your advice regarding marina is that you encouraged him to keep control of marina legally but also let her believe she has freedom to do what she wants right now.

formerout

Narkissos,

Thanks for the reply. You have a very good way of putting things even when you say you don't have much advice to give.

For instance, whatever has already been decided in court (such as visit rights, no KH, staying in the same school) you probably can have enforced by law, without asking the children what they want. Better this way imho.

Unfortunately I have not been able enforce it by law, YET!!! I am asking for a "police enforcement order" to be made because it seems like my ex will not do what's best for the children unless her doing the opposite has strong negative consequences. For example, my oldest son has not come to my house for a weekend visit since before June 22, 2004. He has come for some Wednesday visits (not overnight) and we have had a great time. He has said "I want to come this weekend, dad, but maybe for just one night to start."

But by the time the weekend comes around he says he hates me and doesn't want to come. Without even saying to her about the fact that I know it is their negative manipulation that has caused his "change of heart", I have pleaded with her to encourage him to come. She doesn't. She thinks I ruined my relationship with him and wants it left like that. Even if that were true, a sensible mother would let her ex fix the "problem, for the sake of her child. (Solomon principle again). So after much pleading I filed a "Notice of Contempt Motion". Rather than adjusting her/her family's behaviour (which is all I REALLY want), they accused me of physically abusing my oldest son.

I absolutely and completely agree with you and other people's belief that the children should not be in the middle. That's why I left her... she couldn't be a reasonable person in any conversations and would yell at me and throw things at me in front of the children. I keep them as far away from that as possible.

When they come to me and ask why I took the house from mommy (not reality) I leave mommy's lies out of it and stress that they have a nice place to live at mommy's and they have a nice place at daddy's right? That's what mommy and daddy want for you guys... is to be happy and be safe.

I think my ex is bi-polar too. There is something imbalanced in her for sure. That's why I am trying to fix things within the Courtroom, not anywhere else. She doesn't necessarily realize how "crazy" she is being. I mean, when we first split up she accused me of everything under the sun. I admitted to being a PART of arguments years ago and this is why we wanted to separate.... irreconcilable differences. For her part, she accepted NO PART whatsover in any disagreement that we ever had in our relationship. that's just delusional.

Any further advice is still greatly appreciated.

Brad

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I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

by Peterpanippleskin in

jw
friends

first of all, i am not a jw and i never will be, for my own reasons that i need not discuss further.

however, i have a brother who is a jw and there is a serious problem that he is struggling with, which pertains to his horrible marriage, abusive wife, divorce and being "kicked out" of jw as a member... or whatever jw's call it.

he has been married to a woman for 22 years.

formerout

Xenawarrior,

Hey, I don't like it when people pretend in these manners either, but it doesn't cause any real harm to me. Meaning, what the heck, I use all of this as a learning experience, so why should I be upset other than having learned something on a very well-constructed lie.

Having said that, if it is a lie, can it be proven? If not specifically proven can someone point to evidence of this other place you are talking about where Peter has apparently done this before? I would rather direct my energy to people like Mario, myself, rather than someone who's lying but I take people at face value first.

Brad

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I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

by Peterpanippleskin in

jw
friends

first of all, i am not a jw and i never will be, for my own reasons that i need not discuss further.

however, i have a brother who is a jw and there is a serious problem that he is struggling with, which pertains to his horrible marriage, abusive wife, divorce and being "kicked out" of jw as a member... or whatever jw's call it.

he has been married to a woman for 22 years.

formerout

Eman,

Why would this person want to contact someone as unbalanced and egotistical as Corvin?
Somehow this post is triggering all sorts of weird antennae. The bit about the IQ doesn't ring true, it's not the sort of thing one would brag about in a first post, unless the poster is Corvin. I think it's fishy. I'm very, very suspicious.
Englishman.

And you, my friend are the epitome of balance? Somebody mentions that he has a high IQ, which he admits is sometimes good, sometimes bad and you have to disregard everything that he has seen his brother and niece go throughand suggest that he is a person that has been (I believe) removed from this board? That does not seem very balanced to me. Abusers need to be taken out of power.... whether in national or family issues. Abusers don't deserve any power. Abusers destroy people with their misuse of power. Peterpan, Please disregard their comments. Even ex-JW's can be a little screwed up sometimes. Brad

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I Need Some Serious Help Please !!!!!!

by Peterpanippleskin in

jw
friends

first of all, i am not a jw and i never will be, for my own reasons that i need not discuss further.

however, i have a brother who is a jw and there is a serious problem that he is struggling with, which pertains to his horrible marriage, abusive wife, divorce and being "kicked out" of jw as a member... or whatever jw's call it.

he has been married to a woman for 22 years.

formerout

Brummie, you said:

Petepinapple, you yourself and you have anger issues!

I don't think you have any right to make such a judgement call with so little to go on. For God's sake, it's not only natural to get angry when stuff like this happens but necessary as well. Without intending to offend his brother, his brother should have stepped in and called the cops when his daughter got thrown through a glass coffee table. Geez!!!!!! Where the hell does that comment come from?

Brad

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Xandria esp. and Shakita, jgnat, Narkissos and others - advice appreciated

by formerout in

i have followed mario's tragic story from the beginning.

especially in this last battle he is in i have respected very much all your advice to him, especially xandria, who seems to have people at her availability with a lot of experience in this field.. mario is certainly dealing with it very well.

what i liked mostly about all your advice regarding marina is that you encouraged him to keep control of marina legally but also let her believe she has freedom to do what she wants right now.

formerout

Happy Guy,

I appreciate your advice again.

I'm not sure if you saw (on my other thread) that I spoke to a lawyer on Friday after court. He is going to call my ex's lawyer on Monday. I have no money to retain him but we talked for an hour and he is doing this free so far. We go back on Thursday for a full day in front of the Judge. This lawyer can't represent me on Thursday but if my ex has any sense she will finally be convinced by her lawyer to be reasonable. This new lawyer was shocked at some of the stuff she is doing.

I'm trying to strategize for Thursday, in case this new lawyer doesn't convince her to do anything reasonable. I want to call the CAS worker on Thursday. She told me that she was going to convince my ex not to move out of town, but she didn't of course. She said, "We (CAS) are going to work really hard with J***** to figure out why she is so angry." I have submitted in my papers that I have every intention to allow J***** the proper access that I am not even getting, so hopefully it can't be twisted to look like I am trying to take the kids from J*****.

Brad

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Xandria esp. and Shakita, jgnat, Narkissos and others - advice appreciated

by formerout in

i have followed mario's tragic story from the beginning.

especially in this last battle he is in i have respected very much all your advice to him, especially xandria, who seems to have people at her availability with a lot of experience in this field.. mario is certainly dealing with it very well.

what i liked mostly about all your advice regarding marina is that you encouraged him to keep control of marina legally but also let her believe she has freedom to do what she wants right now.

formerout

I have followed Mario's tragic story from the beginning. Especially in this last battle he is in I have respected very much all your advice to him, especially Xandria, who seems to have people at her availability with a lot of experience in this field.

Mario is certainly dealing with it very well. What I liked mostly about all your advice regarding Marina is that you encouraged him to keep control of Marina legally but also let her believe she has freedom to do what she wants right now. God knows from what he has told us about the grandfather especially, they certainly do not have the best long-term interests for her.

My situation is not nearly as tragic as Mario's but there are some parallels. I was hoping I could get some advice from you guys and others about your thoughts on my situation. Here is one of my topics on it:

http://www.jehovahs-witness.com/18/81052/1320106/post.ashx#1320106

One of the things to add to this is that my oldest son, who is ten, has been raised by her mother for the last two-plus years, who is a JW pioneer. My ex-mother-in-law has gone so far as to hurt my four-year-old daughter in the genital area with her knee and brought her to the doctor and told her to tell the doctor that I "pushed her peepee in." Unbelievably when I brought my daughter to The Children's Aid Society regarding that, they determined that I had done nothing of the sort to my daughter and closed the file despite my pleading with them to get the truth from my daughter. (She gave them another story when they interviewed her three days later, that I only did it accidentally. )

Even though the Judge ordered my son to be weened off the JW religion my ex-mother-in-law has done the opposite and even told him that it's daddy that is trying to stop him from becoming a JW (and all the screwed up teachings that go with that... my ex-wife and I are not JW's... we haven't been for about 8 years).

Xandria, based on what you have told Mario, it seems like I am best off trying to cut off completely my ex-mother-in-law's involvement with my son. You said:

I am very disappointed that the therapists are allowing this manipulation to occur.

I feel the same way about The Children's Aid Society's caseworker's lack of intervention. My son has been manipulated into falsely accusing me of mistreating him, like "grabbing him by the back of the neck". CAS is aware that his "shutting down at school" is the worst case scenario, since it means he cannot even find an "escape" from his situation. However the thing that scares me is that, from my experience with child protection agencies, that if a man tries to get control of the kids he is automatically looked at as being a threat to what is best for the kids (staying with mom). This seems to be Canada's first reaction anyway and I'm worried that going for sole custody could backfire on me.

If you want me to clarify anything, don't be afraid to ask. What do you all think about the manipulation taht my son is going through? It has to stop. I just don't want my son to have to endure another six months of this shit if I don't convince the Judge this time.

Thanks for your time,

Brad

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fell away.......wanna come back...please help.

by Tiggerchick1012 in

jw
friends

ok, so here's the situation.

i am 24 yrs old.

married and have 1 child.

formerout

Elsewhere,

Why do you think we will not hear from her again?

Brad