something always bugged me about the society's publications.
they'd always use phrases like "many persons do this" or "one expert says", or "many believe".
the person being referred to or quoted is always veiled in obscurity.
Any credible statement can be researched to verify its accuracy.
I would fail, too, if I neglected my responsiblility of citing my sources. False claims don't fly in uni! Hey, keep people out of college, and they may never know how it is critical to cite sources. Footnotes, schmutnotes.
as a young dub in the 80's me along with many of my friends got married, either in our teens or early 20's.. in my area, if you were over 25 and not married, it was percieved that something was wrong with you or you were probably engaging in sex with a "worldly" person.. by why did so many of us feel the need to get married so young?.
i believe it was because of one of three reasons.. 1. you wanted to get out of your parets home.. 2. you had already gone "too far" with you girlfriend or boyfriend.. 3. you were just an average normal teenager and you knew this was the only way you could legally have sex.. .
was this true in your area?.
All 3 for me, and # 4: I thought I was doing right by Jehovah. I married at the ripe age of 22.
It's a shame that a cult can really swing you their way when a person is in certain stages in life. At that time of young adulthood, and as defined by Eric Erickson's stages of psychosocial development, we battle with intimacy vs isolation, where we struggle to form close relationships and gain the capacity for intimate love, or feel socially isolated.
Our brain section responsible for making decisions is not even fully developed until our early-mid twenties!
who do you turn to?
do you go to your spouse?
what if the problem is with your spouse, do you talk to your parents, siblings, work associates, doctor?
Do you go to your spouse? : Never
What if the problem IS with your spouse, do you talk to your parents, siblings, work associates, doctor?: Best Friend, close friends, & close work friends
What if the problem is with your kids? And the person you would normally go to is your spouse, but you disagree on how to handle the problem, then what?: No one, and there's a huge, huge problem at that point.
I've missed you!
today i had a chat on msn messenger with about the only friend that i still have in the organization.
they don't know that i'm not a witness anymore.
this conversation just goes to show how witnesses are completely incapable of having a conversation.
Wow, that was great, DB!!!
You really drove some excellent points home in a casual, friendly way. Aside from their flip-flopping, the one that caught me was the way converts are supposed to question their current religion, and even write a DA letter to them!!!
The final point was made very vividly that she probably went to throw up after the brainwashed dismissal of you.
i'm influenced by the avatars too.
like, i think purple sofa looks like audrey hepburn, and willyloman is a "burnin hunk'a love" and nvrgnbk looks like a sufer dude.
the wanderer is a skinny guy with glasses who never looks you in the eye.. how do you picture fellow posters?.
I've met some of the guys on this site, and they're pretty much all hot. I guess all the really cute fellas end up going apostate, eventually.
I do concur!
recently, i was reacquainted with a friend that i knew since i started grade school.
he grew up in the world wide church of god and i as a witness.
neither of us did christmas so often we would find ourselves in the library while the rest of the school did christmas activities.. .
I would think the Intuitive and Perceptive aspects of it would make one critical of the aspects of the unseen.
Me, too!
Lots of "N's". Is that because there are a lot of us on this board for some reason or because we are attracted to these kind of threads?
Intuition-something we trusted in ourselves to get out of the jw's.
recently, i was reacquainted with a friend that i knew since i started grade school.
he grew up in the world wide church of god and i as a witness.
neither of us did christmas so often we would find ourselves in the library while the rest of the school did christmas activities.. .
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recently, i was reacquainted with a friend that i knew since i started grade school.
he grew up in the world wide church of god and i as a witness.
neither of us did christmas so often we would find ourselves in the library while the rest of the school did christmas activities.. .
Link you posted to Myers-Briggs
i knew of an elder who ran a janitorial business for decades here [surprize] - his primary employees were his kids, ranging in age from 3 or 4 to teenager at various times.
he would bring in the whole family, they would spread out and empty bags, vacuum, and dust.
in a flash they are out and off to the book study or whatever.. he was able to 'witness wipe' several offices after 5 o'clock and before the 7 o'clock meeting times.
Jeff,
It's pathetic that he went to such lengths to make such little money, and didn't get frustrated enough to throw in the towel on the borg to just go out and get a real job instead. Something where some progression can be made, like increased pay and even vacation.
I know, I know, the brainwashing but shoot. There comes a time when you've gotta do what you've gotta do.
L <--Back to being more worldly than ever
