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  Were You One of Those That Ran To The Elders About Everything???

  by minimus in

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  did you always call the elders or talk to them about things?

  did you have a favorite elder that you confided to about everything?

  if someone was acting inappropriately, did you feel obliged to "report" them to the elders?

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  Gill

  Never, ever, ever, I'm very proud to say. My father was a MS so I knew that these men were just a bunch of old farts and never had any fear of their opinion but was afraid of what they could do if they chose to, ie, reprove, disfellowship etc.

  My inlaws were constantly tittle-tattling and arse kissing with the elders.

  They would make life hell for us when we first got married with coming round with elders asking why we hadn't been to the meetings or that I was not a submissive enough wife and was ruining their sons life.

  We were very young when we were married, most of the time we were just too busy in the bed room to be bothered with the meetings and we were hopeless at standing up for ourselves. (don't think we spent much time standing up either!)

  It's taken us twenty years to escape the WTBTS and the in-laws.

  Now life is bliss!

  WE have disfellowshipped both the WTBTS and the in laws!

  He, he!
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  Need To Divorce My Husband....

  by Doubtfully Yours in

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  lately he's very become impatient and rather explosive in temper.

  i can't cover it up anymore, and i'm so tired of pretending in the organization.. need to leave this man and this religious organization in a hurry!.

  any of you divorced because of the wtbts?

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  Your husband sounds just like my dad!

  You don't want to live your life the way my mother has had to and though it will be very very difficult for you for the first few months and maybe years if he really cannot change then you have to think of yourself. No one should have to live like you are doing, or how my mother has lived.

  Leave whilst you still can but cover yourself for every eventuality that you can think of. Don't be afraid to call the police if he is ever even once violent.

  Go for it. In time you'll wonder why you didn't leave years ago.

  He will never change, if he is anything like my father at all, they are unable to see that what they do is wrong. They always excuse themselves in their own minds.

  Go girl!
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  Preliminary US service report for 2004 - based on KM figures (0% increase)

  by truthseeker in

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  below are prelimiary figures for the 2004 service year, based on numbers given in the "our kingdom ministry" magazine.

  publishers

  (inc. pioneers) baptized

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  Gill

  I recently heard from my sister that at the KH she went to they were now putting up lists on the board at the back of the hall with regard to a) publisher's name b)group study assigned to and c) whether active or inactive publisher.

  Could this be to shame some brothers into putting their reports in or even putting in hours in the first place?
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  What is the truth?

  by OldSoul in

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  pontius pilate asked, and now i'm asking.

  i've been reading many topics in here, now i am wondering... what is truth?

  i'm both respectful and broadminded enough to allow for any other viewpoint, whether or not i agree.

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  OldSoul, I am not talking about living without morality or right or wrong. I am talking about not seeing the roses because you're too busy looking at the soil.

  Did I mention, do anything you want and it doesn't matter?

  People, not naming any religious group in particular, are so would up looking for some obscure truth and warning of THE END! and surviviing that their humanity goes out of the window.

  They forget to put out a hand of love or care simply for the sake of putting out a hand of love or care. They seek a future reward and can't feel the reward of simply doing good.

  That is the 'truth'. Maybe loving and caring actions are more important.

  If you believe that you only exist to WARN others and act as God's mouthpiece then perhaps, when you begin to feel that you are above IT ALL is when you are no longer worthy of the job.

  That's why I say we may never know ' the truth'.

  Perhaps there's something More important than some ethereal TRUTH.
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  What is the truth?

  by OldSoul in

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  pontius pilate asked, and now i'm asking.

  i've been reading many topics in here, now i am wondering... what is truth?

  i'm both respectful and broadminded enough to allow for any other viewpoint, whether or not i agree.

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  Gill

  We will never know the truth.

  We do not know what is coming and we cannot understand what happened.

  We don't know why, because everyone's perspective is different and what exactly makes us individually so important that we deserve to know 'the truth' NOW because "NOW" is when WE happen to be alive.

  Every age believes that it's the 'end days'.

  When and if, it comes, well fair enough and if we only live to 'that end' to surviving it we become so self absorbed that we then don't deserve to survive it.

  The rest, the Trinity and all that sort of thing, does it really matter and if so why?

  It's possible to spend your whole life absorbed in irrelevancies and forget to live, just in case something does happen.

  Maybe there is NO TRUTH except be true to yourself and the rest will follow.
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  Demons and feathers

  by Narkissos in

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  brummie's thread about "unwritten prophecies" made me think more broadly about unwritten stuff among jws.

  this one is not a prophecy, sounds more like a "urban legend".. there were stories circulating among french jws in the 70's about people suffering of some unexplained illness, until strange demonic "artworks" were discovered in the feathers of their pillows.

  some were almost dying as the "work" was almost completed.

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  Gill

  Does anyone remember that horrible Awake couple of articles on demonism in Africa? There was a case reported in it supposedly of a mother visiting a witch doctor and she heard a scream and when she rushed out of the hut she found that her daughter"s head had been twisted all the way round by a demon.

  I was never sure whether to believe that or not though I always veered on the side of NOT.

  Some murdering git got away with murder that day, if the story had any basis in truth at all.

  But it all adds to the JW hysteria with regard to these things.
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  Young Pioneer Sister desperate for assistance..any advice?

  by Gill in

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  i have a son aged 19. he's a bit of a handsome devil at the best of times and the young ladies have always been ... how can i put it nicely.... fond of him.

  but having said that he's always very friendly with everyone.

  we used to go to a congregation a few miles from where we live now when he was a tiny child and he was friendly with the kids there.

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  Thanks everyone!

  I must admit it does worry me what would happen to her for the first few months of being out of being a JW. All her family and I mean ALL are JW's. My son and her are not romantically involved, just friends so I don't know how much I could help her either. She would be a total OUTCAST from her family. I worry about what that might do to her mental health.

  She hasn't seen me, since she was a tiny girl so I don't know if she would find me someone she could take to.

  What to do, what to do?

  I understand from the grapevine that about five years ago one of her uncles killed himself after he was reproved hence my being extremely careful about what my son might say to her.
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  MY MOTHER HAS DIED

  by badboy in

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  she died friday night and was buried yesterday.. i feel sad.

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  Gill

  Very, very sorry to hear that, Badboy.

  Condolences to you and your family.

  If it's any help to you, time will ease the pain that you're suffering now and you will start remembering good times as well as sad things.

  Hugs and Love, Gill
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  Can YOU Determine A "Real Apostate" From A "Fake Apostate"?

  by minimus in

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  so often , on this board, we see imposters claiming to be interested in learning the truth about the "truth".

  they may seem to genuinely want to know things and they might ask thought-provoking questions.....so how do you know if the person you're dealing with is the real deal or not??

  any tips to help us know who those "fake apostates" are??

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  Gill

  Mouthy - you're bloomin' funny!

  Gumby- love ya really!

  I had never thought about it properly before but yes, I'd never thought about apostasy as being, saying something bad about Jehovah or Jesus, I had always considered it to be saying and believing something bad about the WTBSI

  I must have always been more afraid of the Organization than God.

  Wow! How stupid can a person be!
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  Can YOU Determine A "Real Apostate" From A "Fake Apostate"?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  so often , on this board, we see imposters claiming to be interested in learning the truth about the "truth".

  they may seem to genuinely want to know things and they might ask thought-provoking questions.....so how do you know if the person you're dealing with is the real deal or not??

  any tips to help us know who those "fake apostates" are??

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  Gill

  Gumby!

  You seem to have your knickers in a twist today, or maybe your pants are in a scrunch!

  Hang loose man!

  Nobody's perfect....Yet!

  He, he!