Homer is right! Of course he would be with a name like that!
Yes I was very nervous for a while on leaving dubland but it gets better and better...
Everyday, in everyway, I'm getting better and better.......
Posts by Gill
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23How many of you were nervous?
by Confusedgirl inif you are taught the jw organization is your link to god, it is so hard to think of leaving everything.
like a hole that will not be filled again, there is so horrible things that have happened in the world, could it be that there is no everlasting life for us, so many questions and to think of giving up everyone makes me sick to my stomach.
but i want to be happy and i'm not, does anyone feel empty?
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EX JW who are now Born Again Christians?
by imnottheonlyone! in.
i am pretty sure this is what i am.
i would love to chat with anyone else who might want to sort some stuff out with me.. many thanks!.
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Gill
What's with the need to have someone else tell you how to feel and think?
Having escaped a lifetime of JWism I find I'm a better, kinder more tolerant person, on the whole. I'm not afraid to speak my mind because I finally trust it, it isn't evil and bad and satan hasn't taken it over just because I've left a religion.
When I speak to local BA christians I hear the same as JWs to a certain extent which immeadiately turns me off.
Though I like them as people their thoughts are again constrained and controlled.
I feel sure that God isn't only interested in people who claim a religion, though I'm still wondering if he's all that interested at all,....sometimes.
Just my humble opinion.
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Funniest comment in a topic!
by mkr32208 in.
i was just re-reading a thread and saw this line-it makes you realise that some jws would fail a test to become the village idiot.. it made me laugh my butt off, again (same as the first time i guess!
) so i was wondering what other great lines have stuck in peoples minds!
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Gill
Hi,
A guy was saying that he liked women with long dark hair.
A lady replied that she had long dark hair.
Candidilynuts replys: 'she didn't tell you that the long dark hair is on her legs!'
I'm still laughing!
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Governing Body, Blood Guilty Because of Enforcing "No Blood Transfussions"
by frankiespeakin inwhat do you think will there every be court cases in any countries(not just usa) because the wt will df people for taking a blood transfussion?.
since it is a disfellowshipping offence, and since the governing body is responsible for determining what is a disfellowshipping offense for all of jws around the world,,do you think they care a heavy blood guilt for all the "thousands" of witnesses that have already died because they refused blood?.
it will be interesting to see what develops as far as court cases in the future and as more and more jw get deprogramed the repercussions this will cause for the already reproachable governing body.
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Gill
carrying on from what eyeslice says though, the fact that you in effect disfellowship yourself if you take blood, doesn't that prove cohercion. The average JW has no choice at least no choice that leaves their life intact as it was before blood transfusion.
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A Fitting Description of how MANY elders view their "sheep"
by HadEnuf ini came across these couple of paragraphs while reading a book by jon katz titled "the dogs of bedlam farm".
i just couldn't help thinking that this was how many of the elders i knew seemed to view the "precious" sheep that they had authority over.
just thought i'd share my thoughts on this...my presumptions are in red.
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Gill
Hi again, HadEnuf,
It seems these heartless experiences are commonplace in JW land. Sorry for your experiences but the one good thing about these dumb elders is that they wake some people up so that they get to leave the bOrg a lot quicker than they would have.
Even having been through these experiences my self though, I wonder how it took so long for us to leave.
We must have been pretty dumb ourselves!
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A Fitting Description of how MANY elders view their "sheep"
by HadEnuf ini came across these couple of paragraphs while reading a book by jon katz titled "the dogs of bedlam farm".
i just couldn't help thinking that this was how many of the elders i knew seemed to view the "precious" sheep that they had authority over.
just thought i'd share my thoughts on this...my presumptions are in red.
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Gill
They certainly know how to bully and are themselved bullied.
I can think of one particular elder, and his wife went to see an elderly sister who had not attended meetings for months. She suffered badly with her nerves because of many family members dying of cancer and she had become reclusive and anxious. Once a week 'Age Concern' would pick her up in their bus and take her to 'Age Concern' for her lunch and socialising.
The elder and his wife went to visit her and laid into her about how Jehovah should come first not herself and her selfish worries and anxieties. If she could go to the 'Age Concern' centre then she should go to the KH since that was more important than Age Concern. They complained that this old lady was crying bitterly when they left. The wife said she thought it was because they had 'shook her up and put some sense into her, to put Jehovah first.' They were sick of brothers who always 'thought about themselves first and not Jehovah'. I don't think that's why she was crying!
This same couple did not know that the husband , the elder, was already dying of cancer. The other elders in the congregation were a bleeding lazy bunch who did not want to go out on field service on Sundays and appointed him to take all the Sunday field service meetings. The brother was sicker and sicker even to the point of passing out when giving public talks and taking fields service. His wife complained of how they would not take his responsibilities off him even though he was obviously ill.
He ended up in hospital and died of cancer a couple of weeks later. Whilst in hospital the PO gave a talk on how elders should not be so proud and selfish as to keep up their responsibilities and priviliges even though they are ill.
This was noted by my family as a pointed remark at our dying relative.
The fault lay in two places:
1)No way would the wife of this elder have allowed him to stop being an elder because of the social status. It would never have happened.
2)The other elders bully and intimidate eachother because they don't really want their responsibilities just the title and social status. They, on the whole don't give two hoots for the sheep never mind eachother!
Dumb Asses all of them.
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Do you let your dub relatives watch your kids?
by avishai inthis was mentioned on another topic but it needs it's own thread.
ok, i'm gonna say it again.
if your relatives will not speak to you.... do not let them have any contact with your children, period.
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Gill
Hi Avishai!
My husband have nothing to do with us or our children. They wouldn't even say hello to the kids and they live a hundred yards up the road from us. My kids can go to my parents only if I go with them as I caught my mother getting all her bible story books out and bibles and asking them questions about the books and if they 'love Jesus'.
So, NO baby sitting by JWs allowed!
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Elders stepping out of bounds
by homme perdu inwhen i was very young the elders told my mother that my unbaptized teen sister could not go to the public park on days that brothers would socialize at due to her lack of morals.
three years ago my brother moved in with my grandmother.
he is baptised but faded from the organization 10+ years ago.
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Gill
Balsam - That's terrible! An eighteen year old is still a child in many ways. How heartless!
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The Young Witness Exodus Continues
by metatron ini just found out that , on my wife's side of the family, the last witness kid has given up!.
he was the very last one in that half of our extended witness family.
ten years ago, i never would have.
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Gill
To be a JW youngster is truly a terrible thing for the majority of them. There is no 'hope' for them except for constant threat of Tuesday and Thursday evenings, and studying for them, field service on Saturday, and meetings and field service on Sunday. Study, bible reading, days text, waiting for Armageddon.... and more waiting for Armageddon. You can't leave,,,,or you're dead, you can't stay because you're head's getting screwed....Don't do this, don't do that, that's bad, and that's the devil's work....you don't need a career, you don't need and education, you don't need money, do you really need to go on holiday? Should you really buy a two door car? Should your skirt be that length?
Why are you wearing makeup? Why are you watching that film? Why aren't you pioneering? Why aren't you sitting at the front of the hall? What will the Elder's say?
What a bloody nightmare! No wonder these kids have mental health issues!
The Watchtower needs bringing down. The sooner the better.
My cousins who are still JWs are all ill with strange diseases. I say stress brought on their illnesses as they're all immune system related. They strive to be perfect in the trooth. I can't be angry with them just really sad.
Since leaving the JWs lingering chronic health problems have literally disappeared and I believe it's because the stress I have felt my whole life has disappeared. After a 'mental crisis' my whole life was rebuilt not far off how it should have been had I not been a JW. But I'm afraid my family, except for parents and sister, shun me and I would dearly love to help them escape the JW cult.
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Accidents and shock
by LittleToe ina few minutes ago i was visiting my local grocery store (co-op) and heard a crash and a thud, to my left.
there i saw a guy sprawled out on the floor, having taken some of the contents of the shelves with him.. i approached quickly, and tried to guage a response, given that he was lying flat (not far off the recovery position) with his eye's fixed and blood trickling out of his nose.. after what seemed like eternity, but was likely only a couple of seconds, he groaned and started answering my questions.
he sounded drunk (could have just been dazed, or worse) but didn't smell of alcohol.. after a few more seconds one of the shop-stewards was at his side and taking over and insisting he lay still, with another one having hightailed it to call an ambulance.
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Gill
Hi Peoples!
Seems like there's no easy answer with accidents and emergencies. You feel bad if you do something and you feel bad if you don't.
Myself, I'm cool as a cucumber during a crisis. I've managed to beat chunks of apples, key rings, money and God knows what else out of choking, turning blue and about to croak kids. I've coped with febrile convulsions, broken bits,burns, bleeds....but the week afterwards I'm a total wreck my nerves are so jangled. Then I have to spend hours cycling every day to use up all that adrenaline!
My plan for emergencies in the street is simple, pick my phone out of my pocket and dial 999 and if it's something I think I can cope with fair enough...otherwise get out of the way...