taliban wrests control of zambul from us
monday, 11 august , 2003, 10:51
washington: the taliban has wrested control of most of zabul province in southeastern afghanistan-- for the first time recapturing a province since being ousted from power by the us military in november 2001-- geopolitical analytical firm stratfor reported.
Oh, yes, it's always convenient to point to the whining "Vietnam" argument. Care to elaborate? Care to explain how Dem presidents got us into it, and how Repub presidents got us out of it?
I'm growing weary of naysayers who seem to always get it wrong. I have to wonder what motivates them.
today i walked into my office and learned my head boss at the college had died of a heart attack the previous friday night.
absolutely devastated about this.
actually all of us who worked with him weren't fond of him at times, but no one wished bad things upon him.
Yours is a very personal post. I am sorry about the loses. I truly am. But, as I read the newspapers and find that life expectancies are ever expanding and more people are being saved from deadly diseases (at least in this country), I cannot feel the same perception that 2003 represents an inordinate year of loss. I'm not trying to be callous, believe me. I've had specific years in which several of my friends and relatives died. 2002, in particular, was a VERY hard year for me, not simply due to deaths, but to some very personal non-death tragedies. I just don't think you can universalize it.
Death is incredibly hard, no doubt. But, sadly, it's part of existence, and we have to somehow reconcile it as part of life...
Best of luck! Sorry for your losses.
if you were to tell a witness that they were "brainwashed" or that they were "under mind control", they certainly would not rationally accept it.the reason is because witnesses cannot distinguish between mind control and "obeying the faithful and discreet slave".
it is only after a person stops exposing himself to the subtle mind controlling tactics of the watchtower that a person can see how thoroughly duped they are in their beliefs.
how might you be able to tell that you are no longer your own person, able to make your own decisions in your life?
The really sad thing is...they cannot help themselves.
hey un, inspect this!
by tucker carlson (
as appeared in the july 2003 edition of readers digest, page 29 to 32
Blah, blah, blah. Doesn't surprise me in the least. The UN is a figurehead, just like the UK monarchy is. It's powerless. And peoples' attempts to suggest that we must "gain the approval of the UN" is simply laughable. What a dysfunctional, symbolic group of do-nothings.
Thank god we've got some leaders in the US.
the "what if" thing comes to mind... no matter how much i strongly believe that they are not, what if armageddon happened tomorrow and they were correct?
would you have any sorrow for being wrong???.
i, personally would not.
Excuse me for my frankness to the OP, but all I can say is you must not have been "out" for very long. People who've been enmeshed in the WTS and have come fully out really don't entertain such thoughts about "what if they had been right."
There are so many things going on in the world, and there are so many other concerns that occupy normal, reasonable people, that honestly, few people who are really "out" don't even give the JW cultists Armageddon..."we are the only ones who will survive" mentality a second thought. Trust me, you'll get there.
Blacksheep
Out n' free for 20 years.
anytime something went wrong in the world with an individual, they would use them as example over and over and over again.. the most common one i heard was brother a got into big trouble with __________ (insert problem here, pick any one), see this is what happens when you leave the organization.. so how many jw's will be saying ............. "did you hear what happened to kobe, big successful athlete, see he didn't have god's organization and satan got him.".
i wonder how many jw parents especially in the la area will make their kids stop wearing number 8. he did and admit to committing adultrey.
sexual assault, i don't think so.
Personally, I was disgusted by his crockadile tears press release. Ugh! He didn't bother owning up to adultry before the DNA results were in, and once they were, then turn on the waterworks! Boo hoo! He was caught red-handed, and he's doing his Hollywood damnest to slither out of it. The guy screwed up. People are quick to blame the woman, of course, as they have always been in the past. What was she doing in his room. No respectable woman would be there. She got what she deserved...
Makes me sick. This guy was idolized for his physical prowess. Oh, he's not the perfect guy we thought he was. It must be the girl's fault.
We haven't progressed an iota in the last several centuries, IMO.
what do you think??
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Should clarify my last statement. The WTS actually stated that much of rape could be attributed to MEN'S being abused by their mothers.
what do you think??
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Too numerous to mention. One that sticks in my mind, however, was that in order for a woman not to be guiltyof fornication and subsequently disfellowshippment as a result of being raped, that she must scream loudly so that others could hear that she was resisting. In fact, when threatened with her life under such a situation, such as a with a gun, knife, or other weapon, it would be best that she go ahead and scream and risk death, than face the shame of NOT having resisted and committing fornication...
Oh, and by the way, the reason for most rape is that women wear suggestive clothing, or they were abused by their mothers. (Circa 1967).
i think i have read this somewhere, but do the jehovah witnesses believe that jesus came and spoke with some members of the watchtower organization?
is this a lie, or do they truly believe it?
if it is true, do they state it in any book or magazine?
As any good JW will tell you, it's all about the parousia (sp?). It was an "invisible presence." Meaning, none of us could see it, perceive it, or see any difference whatsoever. Clear, huh? Makes a lot of sense, no?
I mean, you've got a prince in place who's "coming" has been foretold for centuries, and you claim (in retrospect), that it happened "invisibly". Right. Got some ocean front property in Arizona, if you believe that.
i was reading in the religion page of the newspaper today that the mormons are enjoying romance novels in which descriptions of the characters' sex lives are limited to little more the first kiss--- that could happen after they are engaged to be married........any ideas of what a jw romance novel might be like?
She couldn't help but notice him. He was so confident when he was asked to be the reader of the paragraphs at the Sunday watchtower study. He took such control in managing the microphones. He manned the book counter so masterfully.
She found herself indulging in fantasies in which he took a wholesome interest in her. Together, with appropriate chaparones, he invited her out in field service (she was giddy at the thought). While walking door to door, his strong, masterful arm grazed her bare shoulder in the smoldering summer heat. She felt the sheer power of his shoulder pad, which was enhanced by the strain of his forearm as it clutch his bookbag. Together, they placed more books and pamphlets in an hour and a half ( before the donut break), than either of them had ever before. It was as if the householders could sense their magic.
She couldn't help it, she allowed herself to engage in reveries in which she and he were officially courting; where they went on wholesome outings, with chaparones, of course, to skating rinks, to libraries, to zoos. She even dreamed of their touring Bethel together. A chill ran down her spine as, by accident, their hands actually touched occasionally during some of these chaparoned trips...
She realized she must STOP these potentiallly harmful thoughts. Yet...late at night, she still saw his well-suited image, his bookbag, his little black book containing a listing of all his return visit potentials. Stop!! Stop.
