And even if the entity apologizes, the abuser does not admit guilt and apologize in public.
Posts by blondie
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Will Governing Body follow through with New Zealand Royal Commission's recommendation to publicly apologize?
by was a new boy in'following on from an apology from the prime minister, the commission recommends all faith-based leaders offer a public apology, including the pope, the archbishop of canterbury, the president elect of the methodist church, the moderator of the presbyterian church in new zealand and the head of each individual presbyterian support organisation, the general of the salvation army, the overseeing shepherd of gloriavale, and the governing body of jehovah’s witnesses.'.
https://www.msn.com/en-nz/news/national/govt-takes-blame-will-apologise-to-children-abused-and-tortured-in-state-care/ar-bb1qwoyt?ocid=bingnewsverp.
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Has the Organization threatened to disfellowship those who state views countering those of the Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 indo you have quotations from watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?.
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blondie
Great answer and commenting:
oogerMan2 days ago
No, they don't threaten - they do it. ALWAYS!!!!!! It's the unforgivable sin in JW eyes.
w06 7/15 p. 22 par. 14 - "Such
conversationsmurmuring is often caused byBible knowledgea lack of understanding of God’s way of doing things. The Creator progressively reveals the truth to his people. Hence, ourperversionunderstanding of the Scriptures is bound to bereversedrefined from time to time. The vast majority ofthe blindedJehovah’s peopleagoniserejoice over such refinements. A few becomelike the Beroeans“righteous overmuch” andquestionresent the changes.Logicpride may play a role, and some fall into the trap ofseeing the falsehoodindependent thinking." -
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Has the Organization threatened to disfellowship those who state views countering those of the Slave?
by Vanderhoven7 indo you have quotations from watchtower literature regarding how to handle those contributing to disunity in the congregation?.
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blondie
Blues Brother, I agree "Nb, I have got away with asking questions and expressing doubts before now but I have been careful how I said it and not gone around the congregation saying it. I guess they see me as harmless." I always phrased it so I was a person looking for an answer for someone I was studying with, "what do I say to them?"
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Would Watchtower Actually Murder Members Who Question the F&DS If They Could?
by Sea Breeze inimagine if the watchtower had their own country where they could do what they wanted.
do you think they would actually kill people who disagreed with them?
would the elders be willing to carry out the executions?what say you?.
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blondie
NotFormer14 hours ago
I think I've found it:
https://www.jehovahs-witness.com/topic/3440/arrogance-true-believer
Good find. I was trying to find a quote I made in one of the Comments.
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Article - New Zealand: Jehovah's Witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report
by AndersonsInfo inhttps://www.rnz.co.nz/news/national/522908/jehovah-s-witnesses-lose-last-ditch-court-case-over-abuse-in-care-report?fbclid=iwzxh0bgnhzw0cmteaar1g3qvzxlojo2szcm6xlsf2tsc_0rehd4dp4i6rda6zxafplc_v2hzvvf4_aem_pztghhvtf5to8qsjtv3m0g.
july 23, 2024. jehovah's witnesses lose last ditch court case over abuse in care report.
jehovah's witnesses have failed in an eleventh hour attempt to block part of a lengthy report about abuse in care that is about them.. .
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blondie
JW GoneBadan hour ago
I wonder what it's costing WT to appeal this case...is a WT flunky lawyer involved or did WT source out the appeal proceedings to a pricy appeal specialist attorney?
Yes, the WTS prices these out to non-jw lawyers, the WTS wants to win especially wants people who will see the "legal" aspects, not the moral, ethical, or spiritual side of things. WTS = Pharisees
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Is Serena's Williams a JW baptized that is
by blondie in(can't insert edit in title husband a jw?).
i just read that serena said both of them were jws.
but this wouldn't be the first time means 1) supports her beliefs and does them 2) supports her beliefs and doesn't interfered with but no where does it say he is a baptized witness.
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blondie
(Can't insert edit in title HUSBAND a jw?)
I just read that Serena said both of them were jws. But this wouldn't be the first time means 1) supports her beliefs and does them 2) supports her beliefs and doesn't interfered with But no where does it say he is a baptized witness. Serena used to say she was a jw but she was not baptized until recently.
"Williams and Ohanian are Jehovah's Witnesses and the former U.S. Open champion said at the time: "Olympia doesn't celebrate birthdays. We're Jehovah's Witnesses, so we don't do that." https://www.newsweek.com/what-serena-williams-said-about-being-jehovahs-witness-1773017
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New instructions on not using sisters to manage KH computer ?
by fifth.column insince covid in france, especially in the countryside with lack of brothers, it was quite common that some sisters were using the computer at the back of the kingdom hall to manage zoom session.. i heard a rumor that new instructions, maybe a july letter, stated that this was reserved for male only, even unbaptised publishers, but no sister if there is at least a male available.
that would be a steps back and disappointment for these sisters.
last week i heard at my mom’s house how they were happy that this service was available for them, a proof that the org was moving forward.
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blondie
Reporting but no supporting (here is how the WTS says one thing but practices the opposite) But...as always the WTS goes a 180 degree in this statement: "Huldah—An Influential Prophetess
Upon hearing the reading of “the very book of the law” found in the temple, King Josiah ordered Shaphan and four other high-ranking officials to “inquire of Jehovah” about the book. (2 Kings 22:8-20) Where could the delegation find the answer? Jeremiah and possibly Nahum and Zephaniah, all prophets and Bible writers, lived in Judah at the time. The delegation, however, approached Huldah the prophetess.
The book Jerusalem—An Archaeological Biography comments: “The remarkable thing about this episode is that the male-female aspect of the story was completely unremarked. No one considered it the least bit inappropriate that an all-male committee took the Scroll of the Law to a woman to determine its status. When she declared it the word of the Lord, no one questioned her authority to determine the issue. This episode is often overlooked by scholars assessing the role of women in ancient Israel.” Of course, the message received was from Jehovah.
WT 2002 12/15 p. 22 (but note they quote from a non-WTS publication to support this; that these went to a woman to get a prophecy from god as well going past her husband headship!)(NOTE; WT 1963 9/1 p. 524 "Josiah realized that Jehovah’s anger was great against the nation for having ignored the divine Word and for disobediently doing everything God had told them not to do. Showing his great concern, he promptly dispatched a delegation of five persons to inquire of Jehovah through the prophetess Huldah. “Go, inquire of Jehovah in my own behalf and in behalf of the people and in behalf of all Judah concerning the words of this book that has been found; for great is Jehovah’s rage that has been set afire against us over the fact that our forefathers did not listen to the words of this book by doing according to all that is written concerning us.” (2 Ki. 22:13) Through the prophetess, Jehovah confirmed everything that was written in the book. “This is what Jehovah has said, ‘Here I am bringing calamity upon this place and upon its inhabitants, even all the words of the book that the king of Judah has read.’”—2 Ki. 22:16."
Mostly recently January 2024 Study WT p.16: "He trusts them. For example, Jehovah trusted Eve to help care for the entire earth. (Gen. 1:28) In doing so, he showed that he viewed her, not as inferior to her husband, Adam, but as a complement to him. Jehovah also trusted the prophetesses Deborah and Huldah to advise his people, including a judge and a king. (Judg. 4:4-9; 2 Ki. 22:14-20) Today, Jehovah entrusts Christian women to carry out his work. These faithful sisters serve as publishers, pioneers, and missionaries. They help design, construct, and maintain Kingdom Halls and branch facilities. Some of them serve at Bethel; others serve in remote translation offices. These sisters are like a large army that Jehovah mobilizes to accomplish his will. (Ps. 68:11) Clearly, Jehovah does not view women as weak or incapable."
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What would happen if the religion just straight out gets outed as bad? The ORG admits to it and all the members get told to disperse
by Starlight.vee inlike the org just gives up and comes out saying that all of what they are saying is untrue and that there is no armageddon, nothing.
how do y’all think the the members still in it would react?.
there be a mental health crisis i perhaps.
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blondie
As to the Worldwide Church of God
The Worldwide Church of God (WCG) has split into several churches, including:- Philadelphia Church of God (PCG): Founded in 1989 by Gerald Flurry, a former WCG pastor, in response to doctrinal changes
- Global Church of God (GCG): Founded in 1992 by John Ritenbaugh in response to doctrinal changes
- United Church of God (UCG): Founded in 1995 by those who wanted to maintain the traditions of Herbert W. Armstrong, the WCG's founder, while others joined the WCG, which supported changes made by Armstrong's successor
- Church of God International (CGI): Founded by Garner Ted Armstrong in 1978 after he left the WCG
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Awake 1976 - Should a Pocket Calculator Be in Your Pocket?
by Ron.W. inawake 1976 - should a pocket calculator be in your pocket?.
somehow this totally zany 'bible based' article passed me by first time around!.
anyone remember it?.
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blondie
Calculators were bigger back then and more expensive when they first came out. The WTS often uses the cost of something to be a flaw, especially when you should be giving them that money.
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Ages of each user here?
by ukpimo ini'm interested to know the age demographics here.
it must be significantly different to other exjw forums.
it would be a damning report for watchtower if most of us appear to have left for decades.. you don't have to mention your exact age, you could always say "in my 50s".. i am in my 70s.
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blondie
Old enough