NotFormer, in my area there were "problem" congregations when there was in-fighting in 5 congregations. The CO tried to solve it by splitting a congregation into parts and separate the fighting elders. In one they sent in 2 elders for outside the state to take over the BOE, did not work. It was no secret that the others that transferred, did it so they could stop being elders more easily. Another elder went to the BOE and said he wanted to step down from being elder and the other elders told him he could not do it, they had to approve it. He had several responsible positions because other elders said they couldn't because their jobs kept them on the road too much. So this elder said that the BOE would look pretty foolish when the announced the beginning of the theocratic school and he did not get on the stage...they let him relinquish his positions. But he now not viewed by them as having a good standing. Didn't bother that elder. There are many more anecdotes, see I was the unappointed therapist to many elders (I could keep my mouth shut and had good ideas how to handle or how to leave gracefully). Even circuit overseers bounced ideas off me. Well, I"m glad those days are gone.
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26How are new Servants and Elders appointed?
by no-zombie innow that we have the tick-a-box field service reporting method, how are brothers measured fit for an appointment as a ms or elder?
has there been clarification in any of the recent elders schools or in meetings with the co?.
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How are new Servants and Elders appointed?
by no-zombie innow that we have the tick-a-box field service reporting method, how are brothers measured fit for an appointment as a ms or elder?
has there been clarification in any of the recent elders schools or in meetings with the co?.
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As to there not being enough "capable" brothers, sometimes there are capable brothers who used to be elders in another congregation, when transfer to another, even though previous BOE sends a letter of recommendation, that elder does not accept the appointment. At one time we had 4 elders transfer and did not accept reappointment. Big reason why they transferred. Asked several times over 5 years before the BOE realized it was never going to happen. Some jws don't realize how divided some BOEs and be that result in big fights, yelling even. 1 died since and the other 3 still won't let the BOE reappointment them.
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Age Appropriate Friends
by Riley inwe have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
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blondie
Remember how deceptive pedophiles can be, they might not even see themselves as pedophiles, just being "helpful." It is sad that being careful is necessary in any group claiming to be religious. Even the jw bible says to watch out for the "wolves in sheep clothing" in the congregation. Even a man showing interest in a young boy, fathers should be the guide in the family (if he is a 'secret' pedophile is another issue), not expect other adults outside the family take on that spiritual role to teach and guide his children (and single mothers as well). I speak from my own experience and helping others deal with the bad results of this. Since the WTS does not identify known pedophiles to the congregation, parents have no idea who is a danger. As well as elder bodies deciding that pedophile is repentant and is "forgiven."
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January 2025 Letter to the Elders
by blondie ini used to send my comments on these letters to atlantis, so i will share them here if that is okay, if not, i'll still do it.
:) 1) medical matters: (technology has arrived) listing of hlc members is not online and updated regularly, but only elders have access, not for general circulation.
(and in case the reader of the letter needs clarification) copies should not be made for publishers or on the information board (!).
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blondie
I used to send my comments on these letters to Atlantis, so I will share them here if that is okay, if not, I'll still do it. :) 1) Medical Matters: (Technology has arrived) Listing of HLC members is not online and updated regularly, but only elders have access, not for general circulation. (and in case the reader of the letter needs clarification) Copies should not be made for publishers or on the information board (!)
2) Meeting times: guided by "elders manual" to know how to rotation of meeting times (I assume if 2 or more congregations in the same KH)
3) Infirm regular pioneers (how do the determine who is "infirm" a note from the doctor? that means regular pioneers still have to report hours) Decision only after consulting with (a doctor?) the the circuit overseer (with a medical doctor license?)
4) Security Plan: 2 elders to review (security experts?) Consider if there security situation in the local community (so what would that be since the elders are not security experts?) Increased crime or threats toward the congregation (what about crimes like child sexual abuse within the congregation?)
5) Revised Talk Outlines: (why revisions, changes in vocabulary, like "removed" rather than "disfellowshipped" other updates in policies and doctrine?)
6) Every letter has a reminder the make the mid-week announcements and post on information board. Does that mean that memory retention is failing among the elders?
7) Disaster Preparedness (since Katrina (2006? and the failure of being able to contact or determine where members are) (Does the congregation really have local preparations, do the members know what they are?)
8) Attendant Training (Training!)(Attendants not required to be baptized?) New attendants need train only) What is appropriate training?)
9) Revised Talk Outlines (Evidently item #5 was not sufficient) Ensure that any (MS) who deliver pubic talks..using latest version,
10) Medical Information Documents Review (elders manual) need for "each" elder knowhow to find the documents, familiar with content, "alert" to provide documents to publishers !
11) Information for Expectant Mothers, Information for Patients Requiring Surgery of Chemotherapy, Information for Parents Whose Child Requires Medical Treatment, (more info that in the past, I'm sure the Legal Department is behind this)
12) (Meeting times changes...uploaded to the WTS website immediately, so the elders need to be told this?) (Congregation contacts are no on JW.org and non-jws can access or jws traveling who want to attend meetings in the area (haha)
13) Review of Congregation Records (yes the WTS now has records retention guidelines, (Yes, not saving them for years and years after the person has even died or in a file cabinet is some elders personal office)
14) Durable POA and ID Card (yes ID card) sufficient supplies (for the increase of baptized jws? Changes in the cards?)
Letter for Congregations (yes not all the info for the elders is shared with the congregation)
1) Minimum age to assist construction projects, maintenance projects, or disaster relief...adjusted age from 17 to 18 (Legal reason I'm sure, and) age adjusted to: 15-17 years of age, baptized or unbaptized (exemplary) publishers if accompanied by parent or legal guardian (Legal reason, what happens if minor is injured on site, and no parent or guardian present?)
2) Encourage dear young ones (haha) privilege..develop a spirit of responsibility...
Well, that is what I see when reading this. Changes, changes, many for legal reasons (like it is now "removed" not "disfellowshipping) I am not surprised that the ordinary jws have not time to read their bibles.
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Age Appropriate Friends
by Riley inwe have a 25 year guy in our hall who is also a pioneer (which means he lives off his parents money), who likes to spend a lot of time with a 16 year old girl in the hall.
it is usually in a group setting but he seems to gravitate toward her.
he even has her auxilary pioneering , which is something i don't think any student trying to make the grades needs.
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blondie
A recipe for child sexual abuse!
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In the Year 2525
by blondie inhttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gb7pohqumwg in the year 2525 i. ii the year 2525, if man is still alive .
if woman can survive, they may find.
in the year 3535ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lieeverything you think, do and sayis in the pill you took todayin the year 4545you ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyesyou won't find a thing to chewnobody's gonna look at youin the year 5555your arms hangin' limp at your sidesyour legs got nothin' to dosome machine's doin' that for youin the year 6565you won't need no husband, won't need no wifeyou'll pick your son, pick your daughter toofrom the bottom of a long glass tube.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gb7poHQuMWg In the year 2525 I
iI the year 2525, if man is still alive
If woman can survive, they may find
In the year 3535
Ain't gonna need to tell the truth, tell no lie
Everything you think, do and say
Is in the pill you took today
In the year 4545
You ain't gonna need your teeth, won't need your eyes
You won't find a thing to chew
Nobody's gonna look at you
In the year 5555
Your arms hangin' limp at your sides
Your legs got nothin' to do
Some machine's doin' that for you
In the year 6565
You won't need no husband, won't need no wife
You'll pick your son, pick your daughter too
From the bottom of a long glass tubeIn the year 7510
If God's a coming, He oughta make it by then
Maybe He'll look around Himself and say
Guess it's time for the judgment day
In the year 8510
God is gonna shake His mighty head
He'll either say I'm pleased where man has been
Or tear it down, and start againIn the year 9595
I'm kinda wonderin' if man is gonna be alive
He's taken everything this old earth can give
And he ain't put back nothingNow it's been ten thousand years
Man has cried a billion tears
For what, he never knew, now man's reign is through
But through eternal night, the twinkling of starlight
So very far away, maybe it's only yesterdayIn the year 2525, if man is still alive
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FAQ LIES: Dress Codes
by neat blue dog inspeaking to the general public:.
frequently asked questions...is there a dress code?no.
however, jehovah’s witnesses try to dress modestly and respectfully.. meanwhile, speaking to members out of the other side of their mouth:.
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blondie
Another case of speaking out of both sides of the mouth.
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Blondie--A Note!
by Atlantis inblondie, this is what has been sent to me concerning the new elder manual and so forth.. ***************************************************************.
[ just the monthly announcements and reminders.
no revised sfl or program for kms next month yet.... .
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blondie
Thanks, Petra. Many hugs for taking on this responsibility, no easy job. Love, Blondie
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2025**S-147**January** Announcements.
by Atlantis in2025**pdf**s*147**announcements.. here.. https://pdfupload.io/docs/73dbf41c.
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blondie
I knew it had to be you, Petra. Thanks for taking on this task. Sorry, about Atlantis current status. :(
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Leah Remini's Next A&E Project to Tackle Jehovah's Witness
by blondie inleah remini's did a show several years ago, it was very good.
she is working on a new one.. https://www.msn.com/en-us/tv/news/leah-reminis-next-aande-project-to-tackle-jehovahs-witness/ar-aaxeni9?apiversion=v2&noservercache=1&domshim=1&renderwebcomponents=1&wcseo=1&batchservertelemetry=1&noservertelemetry=1 .
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blondie
Sorry, neat blue dog. I missed that very important fact. That show is worth a look.
