Beth Sarim, I was surprised it was that long ago. The CLAM is a joke more than any other WTS publications. Definitely, snoozeville, WTS trying to get old-time jws to do an effective way of making converts. A few years ago, the congregation overseer did a run down of number of bible with people other than children of jws, and it was only one, for 1 year with 100 publishers. And that one had just been df'd. Not surprised September 2024 was a special month offering bible studies to non-jws. I wonder how that turned out.
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Kingdom Ministry School 2022-2023
by Lowrence indoes anyone of you have the outlines of the latest kingdom ministry school 2022-2023 in pdf, if it possible with videos?
thanks in advance.
lowrence .
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Removed - blood card
by skin ini overheard a discussion between two jws, they said that when someone is disfellowshipped, they are asked to hand their blood card back to the elders.
i had never heard of this before, is this correct?.
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blondie
It is not part of the official WTS policy, not in print in their publications. But if individual elders might make this necessary, I can believe that. Elders don't always listen to the WTS and make their own rules. Of course, that might get them in trouble with the WTS if the WTS finds out.
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Kingdom Ministry School 2022-2023
by Lowrence indoes anyone of you have the outlines of the latest kingdom ministry school 2022-2023 in pdf, if it possible with videos?
thanks in advance.
lowrence .
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blondie
In 2016 the Kingdom Ministry was replaced with this publication
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HOW TO BE LOYAL TO JEHOVAH
by liam ina post from another exjw site, shows how throughout the years, in a regular, systematic fashion, the watchtower has influence thoroughly; an ideological point of view, in the minds of it’s members by using bible scriptures and examples, to get the members to do the unthinkable, even if it clashes with modern ethics.
february 2016 watchtower, paragraph 3 of the article titled .
"learn from jehovah’s loyal servants".
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blondie
Watchtower 2013 Nov 15 p.20
"At that time, the lifesaving direction that we receive from Jehovah’s organization may not appear practical from a human standpoint. All of us must be ready to obey any instructions we may receive, whether these appear sound from a strategic or human standpoint or not."Watchtower 2022 Feb pp.2-7
During the great tribulation, we may receive instructions that seem strange, impractical, or illogical. Of course, Jehovah will not speak to us personally. He will likely provide direction through his appointed representatives. That will hardly be the time to second-guess the direction or to view it with skepticism
https://www.jwfacts.com/watchtower/quotes/trust-governing-body.php
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Some religions also facing persecution
by blondie inyes, persecution for religious beliefs is not exclusive to the watchtower organization.
how can that be, persecution is supposed to proof of god's favor on them, haha.https://www.forum18.org/archive.php?article_id=2948 .
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blondie
DOC, yes it would. The WTS think that persecution means the are the only true religion, but they fail to mention that it is happening to other religions.
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Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold
by AdamCzarnobay ini was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.
it's now a mosque.
this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..
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blondie
a watcher, I was talking about both, The closest KH to me has a separate small house connected to the KH but had to make it so that the congregation was not paid directly. Another brother paid the rent for the person living there, and that person then donated it to the congregation/WTS.
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They are running out of people to do their stuff.
by liam inthis is the watchtower study article being studied today.
so it’s the current new light!.
what are the new qualifications to be an “elder-aka older man...and circuit overseer?.
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blondie
Yes, men are no longer "reaching out" so they have to catch the males in the congregation early. In some areas, elders have "stepped down" by their own choice and the can't guilt them to get reappointed. Also, the elder age group and dying or their faculties are much good.
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List of conventions that congregation are assigned to
by AdamCzarnobay indoes anyone have access to the list that shows which congregations are assigned to each convention in the uk.
would really like the 2024 list if anyone has it.. thanks in advance.
adam.
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blondie
Snakes, I do know that the conventions have been broken down to smaller groups (not just foreign languages) in the assembly halls. I live very near an assembly hall and they had scheduled at least 3 during the summer when no circuit assemblies tend to be scheduled. I live near a kingdom hall, and they had it set up like that. So I'm thinking they still have assignments. Used to be printed in the old kingdom ministry, I wonder if they just read a letter at the midweek meeting and post it on the information board?
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Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold
by AdamCzarnobay ini was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.
it's now a mosque.
this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..
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blondie
Everything I have found shows that the WTS does it on a case by case basis, and then seems to leave it up to the jw in question (we know how that goes). One article is from WT 4/15/1999 p.28 -30 Questions from Readers. If not triggering can go to the Watchtower Online Library. Below the WTS also talks about how each case might be viewed by those outside the WTS too. Perception, perception, perception, the trick the WTS uses often to guilt jws into not doing something that has no real scriptural basis. So it is not a blanket belief officially but it can up being that way unofficially.
I found this in a October 2019 WT page 12-13: A true Christian must make sure that his secular employment has nothing to do with Babylon the Great. For example, he would not be an employee of a church. Furthermore, a Christian who is employed by some other business would not want to do extensive work at a facility that promotes false worship. And if he owns a business, he would certainly not bid on a job or do contract work for any part of Babylon the Great. Why do we take such a firm stand? Because we do not want to share in the works and sins of religious organizations that are unclean in God’s eyes...Years ago, a self-employed elder was asked by a contractor to accept a small carpentry job at a church in the town where the brother lived. The contractor knew that the brother had always said he would not work on churches. But this time the contractor was desperate to find someone for the job. Even so, the brother stuck to Bible principles and declined the work. The next week, the local newspaper showed a photograph of another carpenter attaching a cross to the church. If our brother had compromised his stand, it could have been his picture in the paper. Think of how damaging that would have been to his reputation among his fellow Christians! Think, too, of how Jehovah would have felt.
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Wythenshawe Kingdom Hall - Sold
by AdamCzarnobay ini was slightly surprised to see that wythenshawe hall has been sold.
it's now a mosque.
this one had an attached flat where the co and his wife lived, i wonder what accommodation they put them in these days..
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blondie
careful, could have changed, I haven't checked deeply to see if it has changed since I left. Colleges might be different. But working directly for a church or church organizational structure, probably is not allowed. Such as repairing or maintenance on a church steeple. But if a jw works for or through a contractor as the employer, it might be allowed then. But I have learned over the years, that outside the organization perception some times overrules the details. I wonder where the money comes to pay their salary, indirectly or directly from the church involved. Also, some times here church private schools will not employ people not members of their religion. That has been contested here in the US since it seems that religion should not be a factor in employment. I will check and appreciate your comments. I worked for a law enforcement agency but did not have to carry a gun as a requirement of my employment. That was quibbled about by some jws, but then the WTS had an article that said the issue was having to carry a gun as a requirement of employment. It is so legalistic, the WTS is a bunch of Pharisees.