Room 215:
Thanks for the update!
Atlantis!
a newly- enacted eu gdpr privacy protection law, to become effective from may 25, has apparently prompted jws to file suit in protest: .
(translated from the italian) .
source: ex-jwblog: http://testimonidigeovachiedono.blogspot.com/2018/05/le-note-di-casa-in-casa-sono-illegali-per-il-gdpr.html):.
Room 215:
Thanks for the update!
Atlantis!
there are a number of salient facts concerning this man who possessed a big reputation.. 1. covington and rutherford were pretty much the type a personalities who got along famously.
in fact, rutherford wanted covington to be the next gb executive of the watchtower corporation.. 2. fred franz and nathan knorr were the polar opposites to the (above) dynamic duo.
these two would conspire to drive covington out.
Terry:
Thank you!
Atlantis!
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Beth Sarim:
Very welcome!
Atlantis!
the jehovah’s witnesses community in the netherlands will not hold an independent inquiry into the sexual abuse of members, despite being urged to do so by justice minister sander dekker.read more at: https://www.dutchnews.nl/news/2018/05/jehovahs-witnesses-reject-calls-for-independent-inquiry-into-sexual-abuse/item in dutch news on tv (english subs available)https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nkvtll8wjca&feature=youtu.be.
jochie:
Thank you for the link and the update! Sounds like the JW's have a lot to hide and are afraid of finding out the truth.
Atlantis!
one of my all-time favourite illustrations:.
bible teach, chap.
16 p. 154 pars.
The Fall Guy:
So in reality, the JW's present Bible should be called The Revised, Revised, New World Translation of the Holy Scriptures.
You got to get up pretty early to get one past The Fall Guy! Great find, Revised, Revised, LOL deserves a six pack:
Atlantis!
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2018-05-18-S-331-E-BOE
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6-Pages
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one of my all-time favourite illustrations:.
bible teach, chap.
16 p. 154 pars.
The Watchtower even admits their "poisoned" understanding of the Scriptures.
"Furthermore, the remnant of spiritual Israel had for decades .. been looking forward to the ending of the Times of the Gentiles in the autumn of 1914. They were expecting God's Messianic Kingdom to be fully established in the heavens by then and also for the remnant of spiritual Israel to be glorified with Jesus Christ in the heavenly kingdom at that time. All understanding of the Holy Scriptures was slanted in that direction or adjusted to that idea."
{Man's Salvation Out Of World Distress At Hand, 1974, pg. 136}
Atlantis!
your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.
perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?
Gorbatchov:
It looks 3rd party to me to so I don't think it is part of jw.org. But you never know these days.
Anders Andersen:
Thank you for the information. Your help is most appreciated. I am glad you are up to date with all this data stuff. It can sure cause a lot of confusion and stress trying to keep up with it all.
Atlantis!
your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.
perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?
zeb:
Thank you for your assistance!
Atlantis!
your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated.
a friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website hourglass.. i myself know very little about the site other than the information i received today.
perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.. is this a dangerous site?
Your assistance and opinions will be very much appreciated. A friend sent me the information listed below wanting to bring some attention to the website HOURGLASS.
I myself know very little about the site other than the information I received today. Perhaps there are others here that could shed some light.
Is this a dangerous site? Is data being shared without consent? Just what do we know about this site?
Here is the message I received:
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This involves mainly active JWs.
There is a JW in the USA who has created and runs a program called HOURGLASS.
Basically it holds ALL the publishers confidential data (including
date of birth, email home address, phone numbers, sex, report cards
etc) on his servers in the USA, without the majority of the
publishers' knowledge or consent.
This is a HUGE breach of the Data Protection Law let alone the new
European GDPR.
I contacted him once asking him to remove my data to which he replied
that he is only able to remove data for accounts that have been set up
individually. In my case I would need to contact the congregation
secretary for him to manually remove the data he entered about me...
[which he won't do and in my opinion is just passing the buck as the
program is the owners responsibility.
According to ICO in the UK
https://ico.org.uk/for-organisations/guide-to-data-protection/principle-8-international/
the DPA guarantees...
“Personal data shall not be transferred to a country or territory
outside the EEA unless that country or territory ensures an adequate
level of protection for the rights and freedoms of data subjects in
relation to the processing of personal data.”
So the Hourglass program already has breached this law. Then look at
the Hourglass privacy policy:
https://www.hourglass-app.com/static/privacy.html
You have no rights to access, oppose, correct or delete your data,
which is a must even for foreign countries like the USA if they hold
data on European citizens.
I know this will mainly apply to active JWs but it also applies to
ex-JWs and inactive JWs as their personal data is being stored in this
program without their consent.
Link to Hourglass info on Google Play:
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.hourglass_app.hourglasstime
Atlantis!