Posts by xochsi

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- .- .- .- .- .- .- . Why is the human mind so dishonest?

by frankiespeakin in

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our brains makes us superior to the rest of animal life on earth,,but only in a limited sense.. .

with our minds we can think, plan, work out problems and such,, but would not the mind be a much more useful tool if it could just be honest?

why if our brains are so developed,,why is it we can't be honest with ourselves?

xochsi

Why do we invent and beleive false ideas since they only lead to more problem?

We like to take shortcuts that will help us avoid pain. We are willing to believe the lie if we see it might just get us out of pain and into pleasure a bit quicker. Our actions and words will go along with the lie we tell ourselves to support it. When conflict arises, we go into denial mode to save face to others we have propogated that lie to. It's only when that lie becomes so painful we can stand it anymore that we begin to tell ourselves the truth and move on.

:STARTREK episode 56

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Are You Surprised As To How You Are Now That You're Out of The "Truth"?

by minimus in

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since we were indoctrinated that those leaving the organiztion had their lives turn into sh*t until they "returned to jehovah (the organization), how would you say things have turned out--so far?

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xochsi

Never been happier, more confident, had better relationships and more love than I do now that I am out of the org. The org blows.

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Your Best WT NGO Analogy...

by Confucious in

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mine is... .

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being in the ngo for a library card is like buying a playboy for the articles.

xochsi

It's like visiting a nude beach and keeping your clothes on. Everyone knows you're just a perv.

It's like being a JW and sending a card to your grandchild the day after his birthday. It's not really a birthday card, now is it?

It's like a mod who deletes swear words from one member's post, but leaves them on a favored member's post. (forgiveness is devine)

It's like being a JW and preparing a turkey feast with all the trimmings the day before or after Thanksgiving because the turkeys were on sale.

It's like justifying baby showers and wedding anniversaries but condemning birthdays and Christmas.

It's like total bullsh*t.

xochsi

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Hypocrasy?? Could it be?

by Seeking Knowledge in

hi all, i hope i'm posting this in the right subject area:

had a "discussion" with my ex the other day, in which i asked him to stop telling our son that birthdays/pumpkins/santa and whatever else were "bad" as he was more or less telling our son that my beliefs are wrong.

of course he says he's only teaching him "truth from the bible" i asked him to point out to me where in the blble it says you can't celebrate these things, he couldn't.

xochsi

Thanks Frannie.

The judge can order that he have supervised visitation ONLY........to prevent him from messin' with the kids head.

Is there some precedence for such a ruling from a judge? Could not one argue that such a ruling, that is, not being able to instruct your children religiously, violate that parent's constitutional right? Sounds very interesting to me.

xochsi

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Hypocrasy?? Could it be?

by Seeking Knowledge in

hi all, i hope i'm posting this in the right subject area:

had a "discussion" with my ex the other day, in which i asked him to stop telling our son that birthdays/pumpkins/santa and whatever else were "bad" as he was more or less telling our son that my beliefs are wrong.

of course he says he's only teaching him "truth from the bible" i asked him to point out to me where in the blble it says you can't celebrate these things, he couldn't.

xochsi

I also found an instance in the book of Job, chapter 3:1-19. Jobs children seem to be celebrating a birthday when the tornado came and collapsed the house killing them all. The Satan's tornado did its job on Job's kids, not because they were celebrating a birthday, but because Jehovah apparently gave Satan permission to kill them as a test for Job. Nevertheless, Job and his family DID seem to celebrate birthdays. Job's burnt offering to Jehovah the next morning was not to atone for the sin of celebrating a birthday, but just incase his brats were sinning while having the party, " That is the way Job would do always."

xochsi

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Hello all you Newbies!!!!!

by kls in

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i see we are having a run on newbies and just wanted to say and welcome to you all.

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i don't know all your screen names and don't want to miss any so post and say hi.

xochsi

xochsi here. Nice to meet you guys and girls. Been lurking for a long long time. One poster's story really got me thinking and helped give me the courage to sign up. thanks for so many awesome threads.

xochsi

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Jgnat needs our love and support.

by kls in

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i am grieving tonight, can't stop crying.

my wonderful, strong, capable, practical myrna, my stepmom and all mom to me, has malignant cancer that can't be operated on.

if you are able, send your best prayers and best wishes her way.

xochsi

jgnat, as a longterm lurker and newbie, I have enjoyed your thoughtful and wise posts. My posative thoughts and prayers go out to you, from a catapolt shaped heart aimed straight at yours. Bless you and know that you are loved, have always been loved and will always be so.

You are one of the most incredible rocks I have ever known cyberthetically and I know you carry such strength that will get you through this.

Sincerely,

xochsi

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Hypocrasy?? Could it be?

by Seeking Knowledge in

hi all, i hope i'm posting this in the right subject area:

had a "discussion" with my ex the other day, in which i asked him to stop telling our son that birthdays/pumpkins/santa and whatever else were "bad" as he was more or less telling our son that my beliefs are wrong.

of course he says he's only teaching him "truth from the bible" i asked him to point out to me where in the blble it says you can't celebrate these things, he couldn't.

xochsi

And if you're wise, you'll get your son an appointment with a psychologist to get it confirmed that it should be court-ordered that his Dad NOT teach your son the JW doctrines.

Is that really possible?

xochsi

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Hypocrasy?? Could it be?

by Seeking Knowledge in

hi all, i hope i'm posting this in the right subject area:

had a "discussion" with my ex the other day, in which i asked him to stop telling our son that birthdays/pumpkins/santa and whatever else were "bad" as he was more or less telling our son that my beliefs are wrong.

of course he says he's only teaching him "truth from the bible" i asked him to point out to me where in the blble it says you can't celebrate these things, he couldn't.

xochsi

Ask him if he has considered Romans 14:5 carefully and without letting the WTS drive his imagination around. Do not allow him to try to spin the argument to the drinking and eating pseudo explanation because the chapter clearly applies to judging in general.
At any rate? whatever rationalization he may come up with, you can always ask him if he REALLY believes the context was not addressing celebrations in general or if he is just repeating the party line.
Romans 14:1, 10 describe the issue having to do with "different beliefs and doubts" one of those being (and not limited to) culinary habits and festive days.
Hopefully he will see there is a biblical supported approach he has never considered before and will drop it. (Romans 14 always does the trick ?cause even the JWS feel the weight of guilt when they are shown to be violating a well known Christian principle even with the WTS support)

This is awesome advice as I had two JW's visit me today. We discussed birthdays. I asked them to just talk to me from the Bible ONLY regarding birthdays. They cited the two b-days mentioned in the Bible where bad things happened. I asked if it was ok to celebrate wedding anniversaries, and they said yes and showed me the scripture regarding Jesus attending a wedding feast and turned water into wine. They said that marriage is God's institution and anniversaries could be observed. I pointed out that Jesus was not attending an anniversary party, but a wedding feast.

I asked if they gave baby showers to pregnant JW mothers. Well of course they do.

So, let me get this straight, I can give an unborn baby gifts in honor of its birth, ALSO "GOD'S INSTITUTION", but never again celebrate its birthdate thereafter? They were silent, then said something about progressive learning and the light getting brighter and brighter, to which I replied, yes the light gets brighter and brighter but the truth does not get truer and truer.

Then I said, instead of us disputing whether its ok with God to celebrate brithdays or wedding anniversaries, especially when God did not see fit to give direct counsel on the matter, as with fornication, adultery, idolatry, stealing, etc . . . let's just read Romans 14:1-10

He pointed out that the person observing days was "weak in faith", to which I countered, which is a matter of opinion as the Scripture clearly states. If it is your opinion that person is weak in faith for observing certain festivals, just remember that his worship to God is just a acceptable as yours. I said in otherwords, it's your problem, it's your choice, and you should not for you to judge my relationship with god based on works. I also said that for you to insist that my relationship with God is not as strong as yours simply because I celebrate birthdays, is to take away my personal relationship with God and my accountability to Him, making it YOUR business, and now I have to stand and answer to you as the mediator that stands between me and the mediator, Jesus, the mediator of God? They left perplexed, lost and promising to "do more research" about B-days.

Stand your ground, use only the Bible and don't let him mess up your son with JW-ism.

xochsi

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Jehovah Help Me Find My Keys!!! In Jesus Name Amen

by frankiespeakin in

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i remember as a jw asking jehovah many time to find my keys so i wouldn't be late for field service or work.

sometimes i had to ask 2 or 3 time but it never failed.

jehovah always made sure i found those keys.

xochsi

Heavenly Father, Jehovah . . .

Any good parent knows that he/she is here to care for and meet the needs of their precious children, and there is nothing a decent parent would not do for their child. A good parent understands that a child is not here to meet their needs.

What an egotistical, selfish god the JW's have that would require such lowly and powerless humans to meet His needs and stroke His ego for thousands of years while suffering and dying one by one, thousands by thousands. Yes, I know, Jehovah, time for you is different, but still, as for me and the millions upon millions that came before me, even 50 years is a long freakin time to wait for relief. When's the last time you even so much as skinned your knee and had to deal with the pain?

Thanks for finding my car keys, Jehovah, but I'd much rather see you do right by your children, pay some back child support, take 'em to the park and play catch, kill a terrorist or two . . . I'd stop being the prodigal son/daughter and show you a little more respect.

F U very much, in Jesus name,

xochsi