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  Jehovah or Yahweh?

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as i was growing up i remember that we, as jehovah's witnesses, took great pride in showing people god's name in their own bible.

  we were the only religion(or so i was told anyway) that used god's name.

  our bible, the new world translation, put god's name back where it belonged.

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  slimboyfat

  It is good to see someone with suc strong conviction that God exists!!!
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  Has Anyone Got Any Proof That The Society Monitors Apostate Web Sites?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.

  so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?

  here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.

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  slimboyfat

  NO ONE HAS GOT ANY PROOF!!!!!!!

  So let's just admit that we simply do not know whether the society spy on this site.
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  Jehovah or Yahweh?

  by undercover in

  1. watchtower
  2. bible

  as i was growing up i remember that we, as jehovah's witnesses, took great pride in showing people god's name in their own bible.

  we were the only religion(or so i was told anyway) that used god's name.

  our bible, the new world translation, put god's name back where it belonged.

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  slimboyfat

  Yehovah

  Anyone who says otherwise if probably wrong!!!
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  Has anything got details about the new OM book being released?

  by researcher in

  1. jw
  2. friends

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  has anything got details about the new om book being released at the meetings in about 3 weeks?

  mar 20 i believe...... its real hush hush..... just curious.....................

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  slimboyfat

  I heard that it will be green with yellow stripes.

  With a fur cover... naturally.
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  Has Anyone Got Any Proof That The Society Monitors Apostate Web Sites?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.

  so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?

  here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.

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  slimboyfat

  What kind of proof do I want?

  How about an apostate who used to work in Bethel to corroborate the story? There are some around, aren't there?

  If people were monitoring this site as people claim, then one of them at some point would have become apostate - yet there is no one here claiming to have formerly worked on the Bethel apostate-web-site-spying-unit!!!
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  Has Anyone Got Any Proof That The Society Monitors Apostate Web Sites?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.

  so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?

  here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.

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  slimboyfat

  I am not saying whose falt it is. I am just saying that they are knocked out already - fight over. If you keep knocking them while they are on the ground unconscious then you will ger arrested!!!!
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  JW Underground

  by Hondo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently read an article about jw's that, if had the choice, would probably leave because of the deceptions, lies, etc., but don't because of family, friends, prestige, whatever, and instead lead a make-believe life going through the motions of being a loyal and believing follower of the watchtower organization.

  most of those purported to be part of this non-believing/participating, but attending, jw population, are folks that have been associated with the jw's for a number of years, but, as many have, decided that the lies and constant changes (new light) just don't make sense anymore.

  i would suspect that identifying those who just "go through the motions" of being a good jw would be difficult.

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  slimboyfat

  I have as little time for apostates as I do for Jehovah's Witnesses. Apostates are simply Jehovah's Witnesses who have had their polarity switched.

  I am a FORMER WITNESS. I am no apostate and I don't want to be catgorised with them!!!
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  Has Anyone Got Any Proof That The Society Monitors Apostate Web Sites?

  by slimboyfat in

  1. watchtower
  2. scandals

  i am extremely skeptical about this, yet people on this forum seem to talk about it as though it were a fact.

  so has anyone got any actual concrete proof?

  here are the reasons why i don't think they do:.

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  slimboyfat

  Because I would like to believe that apostates are so important that the society would spend a great deal of time spying on them. The idea is very appealing. But I don't believe anything unless I see absolute proof these days. We have all been burnt, have we not? So no matter how nice an idea it sounds, I want to see the proof first.

  I would also like to think that the poor old Witnesses have some kind of strategy for combatting apostates. At the moment they are bing beaten to a pulp by apostates. I this was a boxing match the referee would have called the whole thing off long ago - Jehovah's Witnesses have been knocked out already, time to rush the organisation to hospital to recuperate!!!
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  The tyranny of religious experience

  by Narkissos in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  in the discussion of religious or mystical subjects on this board, the "experiential vs. intellectual" issue often comes up.

  while mostly those on the "experiential side" of the debate are content to share their experience without imposing it on others, sometimes the appeal to "experience" sounds like a subtle way of disqualifying the comments of "intellectuals" who cannot know what they are speaking about as long as they haven't got the "right experience".. i remember once discussing that with a welsh evangelical lady: she complained that pentecostals and charismatics in her neighbourhood dismissed her views because she was not "baptised in the spirit" according to their definition of the term.

  i pointed to her that her fellow churchgoers were doing exactly the same thing when they dismissed the views of "unbelievers," or traditional believers who didn't claim to be "born again" in the evangelical style.. here the issue of qualitative or quantitative appraisal of religious/spiritual experience steps in.

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  It's all in the mind
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  JW Underground

  by Hondo in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  i recently read an article about jw's that, if had the choice, would probably leave because of the deceptions, lies, etc., but don't because of family, friends, prestige, whatever, and instead lead a make-believe life going through the motions of being a loyal and believing follower of the watchtower organization.

  most of those purported to be part of this non-believing/participating, but attending, jw population, are folks that have been associated with the jw's for a number of years, but, as many have, decided that the lies and constant changes (new light) just don't make sense anymore.

  i would suspect that identifying those who just "go through the motions" of being a good jw would be difficult.

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  slimboyfat

  No apostate is going to tell me that brother John Barr is a crook or that he does not believe it is the truth.

  That old man is delightful and there is just no way that he would support the Witnesses if he did not think it was the truth.

  People create a bit mystery about the governing body. But there is no mystery - they believe it all just like the rest of them, only more so.