Posts by slimboyfat

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What the heck is this all about?

by HiddenPimo in

sorry - but can anyone substantiate some truth to this article or is it all a mess?.

https://www.reddit.com/r/jehovahswitnesses/comments/7qhe2p/expos%c3%a9_the_governing_body_of_jehovahs_witnesses/.

slimboyfat

can anyone substantiate some truth to this article

Yes, Johnny the bethelite vouches for it, 100%.

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Observation on the external appearance of Kingdom Halls (or are they JW.ORG facilities?)

by sd-7 in

i happened to be picking up the family from the kingdom hall today, and it struck me how the outside appearance has changed a little.

i know it's not new, but perhaps being away from it all for so long made a difference.. of course i noticed the blue jw.org box on the side labeled "kingdom hall of jehovah's witnesses", but it was two things that stood out to me.

the first thing was the meeting times.

slimboyfat

The generic term “midweek meeting” wasn’t possible until they dumped the book study (in 2008?) because you would need to specify which midweek meeting.

I know Unitarians discussed using the term “midweek meeting” but rejected it on the grounds that it apparently sounds evangelical.

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Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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what do you think about dispensing reparations?

slimboyfat

Plus it seems odd to me that anyone on the left would prioritise injustices from centuries ago when there are many racial injustices in the present that need fixing first.

Such as the preponderance of black people in prisons being compelled to perform free labour for commercial companies. Is it the case that, while white people are more likely to use drugs, back people are far more likely to be convicted of using drugs?

We have a similar situation in the UK where poorer black people in London who use cocaine can spend many years in jail, whereas wealthy while people who use cocaine are considered good candidates for prime minister.

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Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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what do you think about dispensing reparations?

slimboyfat

I have a question. Has anyone with any real access to power (such as a Democrat with a good chance of achieving high office) actually promoted the idea of reparations as described in this thread? It seems to me a pretty a unworkable idea as described, and it really makes me wonder if it’s a serious policy option or, more likely, a fringe idea that some on the left have suggested, and that people on the right have decided to shout about as loudly as they can, as if it’s mainstream democrat policy, and milk it for all its worth.

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Should Reparations Be Given To Relatives of Slaves?

by minimus in

jw
friends

some people say that’s the least we should do while others say no way!

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what do you think about dispensing reparations?

slimboyfat

The land was bought and paid for.

I knew I shouldn’t open this thread.

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STOP treating Watchtower Bible & Tract SOCIETY as a RELIGION

by Nathan R. Koppe in

"the watchtower society is not a religious society for 👥 public worship, such as a ⛪️ church, but is a 💲 business corporation..."

➡️ please use and demonstrate this if you are involved in any legal action, it's not about religious rights and freedom, this is where they are 'fooling' their followers and authorities❗️

➡️ the purpose of disfellowshipping, disassociating and shunning are 'legalistic and pharisaical tricks' to 'name and shame' anyone asking (the right) questions about it's biblical teachings (aka) doctrines, (abuse) policies and the real truth about the 'truth' (aka apostate)❗️

slimboyfat

How is this different than other religions?

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"Its not about the numbers...Its about Love"

by Solzhenitsyn in

in the org did anyone ever tell you that its not about the numbers...yet the reality was that it was all about the numbers?.

i ran into a pimi who asked why my family and i were awol.

i told him that it was private and personal and i wasn't at liberty to discuss it.

slimboyfat

Less than it used to be. Watchtowers, Yearbooks, Kingdom Ministries, other publications and talks used to be filled with statistics. Now, hardly any.

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Governing Body - Time in Ministry

by Peeringin in

is there any transparency in how many hours on the ministry the governing body members do on the ministry?

by this i mean the physical act of going door to door in their area.

i guess it is plausible that they would count overseas trips and working on publications as part of their ministry, but this is not what they encourage from the jw on the street.. is it possible for a gb member to be reproved or otherwise for not going out in service?

slimboyfat

Weren’t some of the GB 1.0 well known for doing regular street preaching round Brooklyn: Franz, Barry, Poetzinger, as mentioned, and people like that.

Has Paul Gillies been appointed to the GB yet? I wonder if he goes on the ministry. Maybe he’s lacking hours!

I'm tempted to start a thread “has Paul Gillies been appointed to the GB yet?” Just to see if it influences his promotion. Or, “why hasn’t Paul Gillies been appointed yet?” Or, “has apostate speculation ruined Paul Gillies’ rise to the GB?”

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What is the biggest doctrinal mistake made by the Watchtower /JWorg. ?

by Finkelstein in

personally i think it is 1914 and the following " this generation " doctrine.. this particular doctrine went right against jesus's own words of " no one knows of the time not even he " .

he also admonished his true followers to not set a time upon god's own sacred time .. the leaders of the wts even back to the late 1800's set a time calculated on their own theology 1874 being the first time set and proclaimed by c t russell, also proclaiming 1914 would likely be the year of the final day of judgment armageddon.

all throughout the 20th century the wts held to this doctrine but was eventually revised of course when it was realized this generation had passed away who saw the events of 1914. .

slimboyfat

I think shunning is the biggest teaching mistake: unloving, unnecessary, and will ultimately be their undoing, if they don’t abandon it.

The generation teaching has been a huge liability for two or three decades now, but we shouldn’t forget that it was also huge motivation for people to join JWs and preach the JW message from the 1940s through to the 1980s when millions were baptised as JWs.

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Organized To Do Jehovah’s Will - Book.

by Lost in the fog in

did you know that the current organization book for jws is available to freely download from their jw(dot)org website?

seemingly gone are the days when it was treated with the same secrecy as the holy grail and wasn't shown to a bible student unless they were genuinely considering baptism.

https://www.jw.org/en/publications/books/organized-to-do-jehovahs-will/.

slimboyfat

Notice on this page it has a list of publications, with subheading “organisation instructions” which includes the elders books from 1991.

https://wol.jw.org/en/wol/d/r1/lp-e/1200276167#h=956

Why does it include the 1991 elders books, but none of the more recent elders books?

It looks like one possible expanation for breaking the silence here on the 1991 book, is simply the fact that a picture of this book appears in the Proclaimers book, so it’s already “out there”. Even so, it seems a bit arbitrary, what they mention, and what remains secret.

Selective secrecy gets confusing.