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slimboyfat
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Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips
by WingCommander incolossians 2:16.
"ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.
read it, then read it again.
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Applying the facial hair change in New Order portrayals
by careful ini have a hard time watching the org's vids and reading the publications.
however, that's not the case with others here.
hence this post.
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slimboyfat
careful, further to your query on this thread, I happened to be reading the book Jesus and the Angels: Angelology and the Christology of the Apocalypse of John by Peter Carrell, and on page 83 he notes that the patriarch Adam is depicted as having a beard at the gates to the heavenly paradise. I looked it up and sure enough, in the Testament of Abraham chapter 11 the exalted Adam is said to pull at his beard in frustration. I don’t think WT would accept this as evidence about facial hair in the new system (is official doctrine that Adam will not have a resurrection anyway?) but here it is:
11. So Michael turned the chariot and brought Abraham to the east, to the first gate of heaven; and Abraham saw two ways, the one narrow and contracted, the other broad and spacious, and there he saw two gates, the one broad on the broad way, and the other narrow on the narrow way. And outside the two gates there he saw a man sitting upon a gilded throne, and the appearance of that man was terrible, as of the Lord. And they saw many souls driven by angels and led in through the broad gate, and other souls, few in number, that were taken by the angels through the narrow gate. And when the wonderful one who sat upon the golden throne saw few entering through the narrow gate, and many entering through the broad one, straightway that wonderful one tore the hairs of his head and the sides of his beard, and threw himself on the ground from his throne, weeping and lamenting. But when he saw many souls entering through the narrow gate, then he arose from the ground and sat upon his throne in great joy, rejoicing and exulting. And Abraham asked the chief-captain, My Lord chief-captain, who is this most marvelous man, adorned with such glory, and sometimes he weeps and laments, and sometimes he rejoices and exults? The incorporeal one said: This is the first-created Adam who is in such glory, and he looks upon the world because all are born from him, and when he sees many souls going through the narrow gate, then he arises and sits upon his throne rejoicing and exulting in joy, because this narrow gate is that of the just, that leads to life, and they that enter through it go into Paradise. For this, then, the first-created Adam rejoices, because he sees the souls being saved. But when he sees many soul entering through the broad gate, then he pulls out the hairs of his head, and casts himself on the ground weeping and lamenting bitterly, for the broad gate is that of sinners, which leads to destruction eternal punishment. And for this the first-formed Adam falls from his throne weeping and lamenting for the destruction of sinners, for they are many that are lost, and they are few that are saved, for in seven thousand there is scarcely found one soul saved, being righteous and undefiled. -
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Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips
by WingCommander incolossians 2:16.
"ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.
read it, then read it again.
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slimboyfat
Just out of interest, does anyone read these AI posts?
Try giving this post a thumbs up if you do read the AI posts and a thumbs down if you don’t read the AI posts.
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Col 2:16, the scripture that blows away all of WT's Pharasitical man-made rules and cult guilt trips
by WingCommander incolossians 2:16.
"ironically enough, i never even knew about this bible verse until i had grown up and was pomo of the watchtower cult.
read it, then read it again.
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slimboyfat
It’s sure one of the harder texts for JWs to explain. Another in relation to blood is:
Mark 7:15 Nothing outside a person can defile them by going into them. Rather, it is what comes out of a person that defiles them.”
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Japan closes 638 Congregations!!!!! Why???
by Witness 007 injapan since the 1970''s has had amazing publisher increases!
every year the number of witnesses shot up by many thousands.
this peaked in 1998, since then the number of witnesses and congregations has continued to drop!.
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slimboyfat
My cagey wording was an acknowledgement that the Japanese path to secularisation is likely different than western or historically Christian countries. Christian heritage, in particular monotheism, is one component of many secularisation models, but there are other elements which apply to Japan such as industrialisation, urbanisation, differentiation, individualism, and relativism. (Steve Bruce’s model) Other models emphasise existential security and its inverse relationship with religiosity. (Pippa Norris and Ronald Inglehart) Traditional Japan would be considered a religious society from a sociological perspective, though different in form from Christian cultures. Religion is often measured by sociologists using three criteria: membership, practice, and belief. All these criteria likely take different forms in Japan, but what they will share in common with western countries is that all three measures likely show a downward trend in recent decades. This is how secularisation is generally defined and established to have taken place and or in the process of taking place.
https://scispace.com/pdf/secularisation-r-i-p-nonsense-the-rush-hour-away-from-the-4dg611cwzp.pdf
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2 Peter 1: 1 Corruption in the NWT
by Sea Breeze inhere's how this verse should read: simeon peter, a servant and apostle of jesus christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our god and savior jesus christ: - 2 peter 1: 1. here's how watchtower prints this verse:.
simon peter, a slave and an apostle of jesus christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our god and the savior jesus christ: - nwt.
why did watchtower change this verse by adding the word "the" ?.
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slimboyfat
Another blast of AI text was not warranted. I don’t know what you think you’re achieving.
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An interesting article on the Sons apparent identification as Wisdom
by Blotty in"none of the three apologists attempts to express the coming forth of .
the word with the verbs ‘to create’ (κτίζειν) and ‘to establish’ (θεμελιοῦν) .
from prov 8:22–23.
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slimboyfat
With Trinitarians words never mean what they say.
When church Fathers repeatedly quoted scripture saying God created Wisdom/Jesus they didn’t really mean that God created Wisdom/Jesus.
When Origen said Jesus is a second god subordinate to God he didn’t really mean he is a second god subordinate to God.
When Tertullian said there was a time when the Son was not, he didn’t really mean there was a time when the Son didn’t exist.
When Justin Martyr said Jesus was is angel he didn’t really mean he is an angel.
When the Shepherd of Hermas identified Jesus with the archangel Michael it didn’t really mean that Jesus is Michael.
When Paul said Jesus is the firstborn of all creation he didn’t mean that either.
And when Jesus himself said the Father is greater than I what he really meant to say was that: “one of my dual natures is consubstantial with the Father whereas my other human nature is less than the Father and these two natures subsist yet do not commingle in the one person you see before you.”
Thanks goodness for Trinitarians, otherwise we could be misled into thinking all these simply meant what they said.
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2 Peter 1: 1 Corruption in the NWT
by Sea Breeze inhere's how this verse should read: simeon peter, a servant and apostle of jesus christ, to those who have obtained a faith of equal standing with ours by the righteousness of our god and savior jesus christ: - 2 peter 1: 1. here's how watchtower prints this verse:.
simon peter, a slave and an apostle of jesus christ, to those who have acquired a faith as precious as ours through the righteousness of our god and the savior jesus christ: - nwt.
why did watchtower change this verse by adding the word "the" ?.
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slimboyfat
Earnest provided a useful summary and assessment of subject.
The AI used a lot of verbiage to try to say the opposite, unsuccessfully in my view.
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slimboyfat
Interesting from the chart that Ted Jaracz seems to be the longest serving GB member ever, unless Lösch overtakes him soon. And unless you count membership of the board of directors before that, in which case Fred Franz might be the longest.
It’s neat there were coincidentally 12 GB members at the time to fit squarely on the page not to mention overtones of the apostles.
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slimboyfat
Peter Jackson ?
Might be more entertaining if he was running the show 😉