Aude_Sapere

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  Where's the payoff?

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  excuse me if i'm being cynical, but i've had my own experiences with [b]organized religion, though it was non-jw.

  the group i was affiliated with demanded that full fledged members tithe (10% off the top of your income; pre-taxes), and a donation basket was also circulated at nearly every gathering in addition to tithing.

  even kids were encouraged to participate; they would give them little envelopes to put loose change into and put in the basket.

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  Those volunteer laborers in Brooklyn and Walkill are paid $90/mo in addition to their room and board.
  Minor medical and dental expenses are covered but more serious illness or long-term care brings a situation where they are co-erced to leave and have family or the state care for them.
  The $90/mo is spent on incidentals like: Toothpaste, clothing, travel expenses to their congregation (sometimes an hour's drive away).
  
  On a congregation level, literature to take out in service (door-to-door) is picked up by each publisher (magazines have a standing order which you are required to collect even if you do not plan on going out for a few weeks). The publisher is expected to put the appropriate contribution in the donation box (people watch to make sure this happens) and then - get this - after you place with a householder and the householder makes a donation... You are expected to place THAT donation in the contribution box. Thus paying for the literature TWICE.
  There is no returning un-placed literature. Ask ANY witness, current or former, what they do with their UNplaced literature. If they are honest, you will see them smile. Maybe roll their eyes. Probably a little sigh and or a giggle. (Maybe they really have to trust you to answer that question. MIGHT be a topic for another thread..!!)
  
  Each publisher is responsible for their own transportation. Car, car maintenance and fuel is usually necessary to go door to door and all these expenses are paid by the individuals doing the door-to-door work.
  
  District Conventions: I learned something from this site. New releases (books, etc) are 'Guaranteed Sales' at district conventions. Each attendee will buy at least one of each and usually more. 6 million publishers (many bring other interested persons) all buy at least one copy of each release is an awful lot of money. That's on top of the parking fee and other donations that are expected to be made.
  
  Just a few more payoff's to contribute to the puzzle.
  
  -Aude.
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  List of things banned to JWs

  by AllAlongTheWatchtower in

  1. watchtower
  2. beliefs

  my wife is involved with jws, and i want to find out what they believe, things they do or will not do, that i can present to her in the hope that it will convince her that the jw lifestyle is not for her.

  i found out a few things already, like blood and yoga which i told her about, but she was unphased.

  ("i've never needed a transfusion before anyway, and besides, they told me that doctors have blood substitute now".

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  Aude_Sapere

  **And...no SMURFS?!!! LMFAO, I am tempted to go find and buy one to hang on my door**
  
  That would be pretty funny.
  The list above is pretty comprehensive.
  OH!!! I remembered another not on the list:
  ANYTHING that would cause someone ELSE to stumble. (ANYTHING that someone ELSE in the congregation thinks is 'not becoming a christian'.)
  
  btw: WELCOME to JWD. I have not read any of your posts until today. It's good to have you hear and you are right (on another thread), the people are pretty friendly. It's a great place to learn, discuss, vent.
  Glad to have you here!
  
  -Aude Sapere (meaning: Dare to Know; Dare to Have Knowledge)
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  What's your view on my "Being the Brother" issue that came up today?

  by soundbox_guy in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i'm in field service today and i'm not even the guy that took the group out, as a matter of fact, i show up late today as usual.

  well anyway, i'm assigned to be on another street with my mother and some other witnesses.

  at this point i'm the only brother because the other guy hasn't shown up yet.

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  I agree with the others.
  A thought crossed my mind that maybe they just didn't know how to respond to an open, honest, kind, reasonable person/man/brother.
  But maybe my post-mates above were more on track: They were bossy complainers.
  We've all seen them. Maybe the answer could also be: 'Yup. I'm the brother. And my decision today is to take a vote. Make a game of it as you teach them how to grow up, make a decision, get along and get on with it.
  
  -Aude.
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  Dennis Needs Our Help

  by Honesty in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  let's extend real christian love to dennis and give him suggestions on how he can get under the jw elder poztate scope and successfully fade out of the wt cult.

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  Aude_Sapere

  Ummmm...
  
  Who is Dennis??
  
  -Aude.
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  1 month today!!

  by PaulJ in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  cant believe ive been on this site a whole month...

  today!!!

  i have to say joining this site is one of the best things ive done in my life.. thanks to all of you.

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  Happy Anniversary!! -Aude.
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  Anti-Witnessing @ the District Conventions - Anyone Done This Yet??

  by Aude_Sapere in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  has anyone done some of the anti-witnessing that was coreographed for the district conventions?

  i am *so* looking forward to hearing some reports.

  if you've participated at all, please share your event with me/us.

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  OK - a whole new group is going to the DC this weekend.
  
  Tell us about any Anti-Witnessing you saw or participated in.
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  What's Your Favorite JW Expressions?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i like "theocratic strategy", "new light", "the slave", and "lovers of truth"......anything that you find amusing?

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  Jourles -
  **...And to think I always felt superior using these terms when other kids used the plain ol' BC and AD.**
  
  Good one, Jourles!!
  I completely forgot about that one...
  
  -Aude.
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  What's Your Favorite JW Expressions?

  by minimus in

  1. jw
  2. friends

  i like "theocratic strategy", "new light", "the slave", and "lovers of truth"......anything that you find amusing?

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  Aude_Sapere

  Religion is a snare and a racket.
  
  -Aude.
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  When the cat's away, Kwin and Talesin will play! Enjoy your convention JWs!

  by kwintestal in

  1. watchtower
  2. child-abuse

  i was in the thinking room yesterday morning doing my usual routine, and between grunting and showering my mind was wondering when i came upon what i thought to be a great idea.

  this weekend is the weekend for the district convention where all the good little jw's will be attending.

  so i thought, if the jw's are at the convention, who's going to be at the kh?

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  Aude_Sapere

  Nicely explained, Rabbit.
  Thanks.
  
  -Aude.
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  How many here would classify themselves as Recovering JW's?

  by Big Dog in

  1. watchtower
  2. medical

  medical

  addiction

  n. habitual psychological and physiological dependence on a substance or practice beyond one's voluntary control.

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  Aude_Sapere

  Me.
  Not so much because I feel I may be moved to rejoin the org but more because my thought process still reverts to old JW ways. Also the way I interact with people sometimes strikes me as Dub-ish.
  In that way I feel I am a Recovering JW.
  But have no fear. I will NEVER go back to that org.
  
  -Aude.